2020 Free Agency Thread

[infection]

They want to see what they can do so much that Quin played Oni grand total of 14 minutes in the playoffs(all of it in garbage time). In a series where we were getting torched by an opposing ballhandler.

Yeah but that was 14 minutes in 7 games. This season we should be on pace to see him for 164 minutes, which is more than 10 times that amount. We’ll have plenty of time to get a good look at a butcher’s *** by sticking our head up there.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

 

[NAOS]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

It’s really the only thing that makes sense.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Waiving Batum is insanity from Charlotte. Seriously, that's super dumb.

If no one in the league is willing to take him, they're stuck paying him anyway.

 

[infection]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

If they’re willing to throw around $30M on Favors, even under a scenario where they think Gobert would return, and they’re willing to spend a lot on JC, I doubt the difference between them and Gobert is so large dollar wise that they wouldn’t cover it. The FO is all about their guys. They would have cut JC out of the equation before thinking there’s a dollar amount too high for Rudy.

Plus Rudy has been liking things on the twitters about our moves.

 

[LoPo]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

I agree. Rudy agrees a deal or we trade Rudy to Atlanta. They have already built a team better suited to support a Trae/Rudy team.

Rudy for Collins, Capella, and picks. We could then use the full BAE and avoid the luxury too.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If they’re willing to throw around $30M on Favors, even under a scenario where they think Gobert would return, and they’re willing to spend a lot on JC, I doubt the difference between them and Gobert is so large dollar wise that they wouldn’t cover it. The FO is all about their guys. They would have cut JC out of the equation before thinking there’s a dollar amount too high for Rudy.

Plus Rudy has been liking things on the twitters about our moves.

If I'm Rudy, I'm looking at what Mike Conley is making this year, and that's my starting point.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

In other words, resolving the Rudy situation is the #1 issue for the Jazz this off-season. Everything they're doing centers around that right now. They may also be dealing with Rudy before they finish with Donovan's extension.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

well great... He didn’t call DL yet so if guys are calling him we ain’t getting him.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I agree. Rudy agrees a deal or we trade Rudy to Atlanta. They have already built a team better suited to support a Trae/Rudy team.

Rudy for Collins, Capella, and picks. We could then use the full BAE and avoid the luxury too.

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I could also imagine a deal with Chicago that includes Wendell Carter Jr., Patrick Williams and filler, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Jazzmix]

Can someone make a list of the teams Jae Crowder has NOT played for? Love that guy, but someone needs to finally give him a home. That contract looks awfully tradeable. . .

Jae and Jeff Green should open a jerseys store together, they must have quite a collection.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'll go ahead and say it out loud. I think bringing back Favors in free agency and drafting Udoka in the 1st round are part of a contingency plan in case the Jazz can't can't come to an agreement with Rudy. I think there's a certain deal that the Jazz are willing to offer Rudy, and beyond that they'll trade him or let him walk. This narrative that the Jazz "need to improve their defense when Rudy is off the floor" is valid, but it's also a cover story.

The Raptors just did something similar with Fred VanVleet. They drafted Malachi Flynn (a FVV wannabe) and just gave VanVleet an exorbitant contract. If that negotiation didn't work out for the Raptors, they would have let Van Vleet walk (or executed a sign-and-trade) and given the backup PG role to Flynn.

Maybe but the raps got Flynn partly because Lowry is old and you can play multiple ball handling pgs anyway.

The tea leaves all point to Rudy re-signing. Honestly I didn’t think we were dumb enough to give Rudy the super max but at this point I’ll say it’s 50/50. If he digs in and says supermax or I’m out I think they will give him the money. DL is spineless.

Honestly I think the Udoka pick is partly because they like him but also you can’t judge a first rounder who never sees the floor. Is it a bad pick? No one will ever know.