2020 Presidential election
- Thread starter gandalfe
- Start date
There's this whole likability thing that plays into Presidential campaigns.
Miggs
Well-Known Member
No, IMO.
I think the Dems have a pretty big problem.
When you look at this election from the perspective of "Trump sucks, we need to get rid of him" with his unfavorability rating and all the passionate hatred for him you'd think this election would be a slam dunk for Democrats.
But the Democratic camp is divided. There's a growing number of Democratic voters who are embracing the very progressive liberal candidates and supporting their policies. Then there's the established Democratic elite core that doesn't want to alienate middle-of-the-road voters with a bunch of radical ideas that the Republicans will be able to effectively label as "socialism."
If those two sides can't figure out a way to attack this election together there is a damn good chance Trump will get re-elected. I'm just not sure there is a way to reconcile both sides. The dems might just have to go all-in with the ultra-liberal agenda and hope it energizes enough voters to get it done. But I'm not sure there are enough of those voters out there. If you go the more moderate route and pull more moves like the DNC did against Sanders you might cause a huge chunk of your most enthusiastic Trump haters to feel disenfranchised from the party and they may just stay home.
It's a real problem.
And like I mentioned, if somehow a Republican challenger beat Trump in the primaries I'm pretty sure based on who I'm looking at right now that they would get my vote. I know babe doesn't believe me when I tell him I'm not a liberal Democrat with an agenda to match, but I'm not and I have zero loyalty to Dems other than getting rid of Trump.
Well, let me provide the exception. I will not vote for a candidate that runs specifically as a representative of any religion. That has been a huge turn-off for me in regard to Republicans lately.
When you look at this election from the perspective of "Trump sucks, we need to get rid of him" with his unfavorability rating and all the passionate hatred for him you'd think this election would be a slam dunk for Democrats.
But the Democratic camp is divided. There's a growing number of Democratic voters who are embracing the very progressive liberal candidates and supporting their policies. Then there's the established Democratic elite core that doesn't want to alienate middle-of-the-road voters with a bunch of radical ideas that the Republicans will be able to effectively label as "socialism."
If those two sides can't figure out a way to attack this election together there is a damn good chance Trump will get re-elected. I'm just not sure there is a way to reconcile both sides. The dems might just have to go all-in with the ultra-liberal agenda and hope it energizes enough voters to get it done. But I'm not sure there are enough of those voters out there. If you go the more moderate route and pull more moves like the DNC did against Sanders you might cause a huge chunk of your most enthusiastic Trump haters to feel disenfranchised from the party and they may just stay home.
It's a real problem.
And like I mentioned, if somehow a Republican challenger beat Trump in the primaries I'm pretty sure based on who I'm looking at right now that they would get my vote. I know babe doesn't believe me when I tell him I'm not a liberal Democrat with an agenda to match, but I'm not and I have zero loyalty to Dems other than getting rid of Trump.
Well, let me provide the exception. I will not vote for a candidate that runs specifically as a representative of any religion. That has been a huge turn-off for me in regard to Republicans lately.
Yeah, I kind of agree, but it's too bad.
Zombie
Well-Known Member
Lol you gotta be ****ing kidding me.
No, I'm not ****ing kidding you. I'm super not impressed with any of the Democrats I'm looking at.
You got some I should be impressed with?
And let's be clear here. If there is a serious challenge to Trump in the primaries it would be based on someone rejecting Trumpism, and if they won it would be the Republican party rejecting Trumpism. Noone is going to beat Trump at his own game and win over Trump lovers by pushing the same agenda. It would have to be by rejecting that direction and bringing the Republican party back from this ugly BS.
Zombie
Well-Known Member
Like there exists a Republican on the planet that is 'impressive.' I mean the dysfunction that exists in the GOP is endemic to the party, they created Trump remember.
As for the Democrats I think Sherrod Brown, Elizabeth Warren, Beto, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, and Kirsten Gillibrand are all fine candidates. Heads and shoulders above any of the Republicans that ran in 2016.
Last edited: