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AverageJoe said:
Cool rant. I will spare you. But I do hope you might venture to read Wikipedia once in awhile. I will grant you that Obama had his failings especially when it came to foreign policy but if you don`t think Trump is a nefarious dude of a degree higher than Obama I`m not sure I can take you seriously. You are allowed to like him I suppose. People seem to have their reasons...

Just off the top of my head...he failed to condemn white supremacists, separated refugee children from their parents and put them in cages,and ordered a Muslim travel ban.(ICBW but wasnt that an executive order?) Freshest in my mind, and I`m sure you`ll beat your chest at this one, assassinated soleimani and put the Iranians on a hair trigger that resulted in the death of 176 people on Flight 752.
He`s a bad dude my dude.
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You mean the cages built by the Obama administration?

ANd there ya go blaming Trump on Iran blowing up a civilian plane. Wow that's pretty gross. Crazy how much you all love one of the worst terrorist in the world. It's pretty ****ing gross.
 
One Brow said:
How delightfully naive. The Federal Government has data warehouses they use to gather all the routine spying they do daily, and have been since the Patriot Act.

Well, I've gotten my fix for the night. Thanks.
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So why did they apologize?

What did they mean by this?

Wray’s apology comes as a result of a FISA court looking into the wrongful surveillance of Trump advisor Carter Page. In a statement to the FISA court, Wray writes that the FBI’s behavior surveilling the Trump campaign was “unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution,” and that “the FBI deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by” the Inspector General —
 
Edit: You are posting too fast for me, Jazzyfresh, referring to post before last.

Point one: Sure but that event didn`t happen under obama`s watch did it.

Point two: the cause and effect was direct. He didnt think about the ramifications of what he was doing and people lost their lives because of it. Im done talking to you, yur a dolt.
 
The Obama administration, not the Trump administration, built the cages that hold many immigrant children at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Pictures of children behind chain-link fencing were captured at a site in McAllen, Texas, that had been converted from a warehouse to an immigrant-detention facility in 2014. Social media users who defended Trump’s immigration policies also shared a 2014 photograph of Obama’s Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, touring a facility in Nogales, Arizona, in 2014, in which the fencing could be seen surrounding migrants there as well. That picture was taken during a spike in the number of unaccompanied children fleeing violence in Central American countries.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/
 
AverageJoe said:
Point one: Sure but that event didn`t happen under obama`s watch did it.

Point two: the cause and effect was direct. He didnt think about the ramifications of what he was doing and people lost their lives because of it. Im done talking to you, yur a dolt.
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Obama gave Iran hundreds of millions in the heat of night in which his own Press Secretary admitted would go to terrorism. Should we blame him too?

Earnest: "Certainly Possible" That $400 Million Cash Payment To Iran Was Used For "Nefarious Activities"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...o_iran_was_used_for_nefarious_activities.html
 
AverageJoe said:
Cool rant. I will spare you. But I do hope you might venture to read Wikipedia once in awhile. I will grant you that Obama had his failings especially when it came to foreign policy but if you don`t think Trump is a nefarious dude of a degree higher than Obama I`m not sure I can take you seriously. You are allowed to like him I suppose. People seem to have their reasons...

Just off the top of my head...he failed to condemn white supremacists, separated refugee children from their parents and put them in cages,and ordered a Muslim travel ban.(ICBW but wasnt that an executive order?) Freshest in my mind, and I`m sure you`ll beat your chest at this one, assassinated soleimani and put the Iranians on a hair trigger that resulted in the death of 176 people on Flight 752.
He`s a bad dude my dude.
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Those are just a few layers of the gigantic onion that Trump is

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K, I've done enough tonight. Funny thing, nobody has said a word about things like Criminal Justice Reform, Anti Human trafficking, or Trump signing bills that restores funds to all black failing colleges. I understand why you want to sweep that under the rug.
 
Add Average Joe to the list of people who are unable to stomach the idea of continuing a conversation with jazzy.

But it's everyone else that's the problem. Jazzys posts are perfect. He has all the best words....

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Lol insults again. What a petulant child.

Night. Thanks for the conversation others. It's crazy how different we see the exact same things. Average Joe I apologize if I was a over the top.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Obama gave Iran hundreds of millions in the heat of night in which his own Press Secretary admitted would go to terrorism. Should we blame him too?

Earnest: "Certainly Possible" That $400 Million Cash Payment To Iran Was Used For "Nefarious Activities"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...o_iran_was_used_for_nefarious_activities.html
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Do you even read your own sources? Terrible headline not withstanding. That`s not what the article you cited articulated. I`m not sure I even have the energy to go into it. Ok I will, edit upcoming bear with me... Edit: Nope i don`t have the energy. suffice to say the money was used predominantly for propping up the Iranian economy exactly as they expected as part of a preexisting nuclear deal the US had with Iran. I don`t want to read it for you or re watch the video.

Edit again: still out pacing me JazzyFresh. Just read your post below mine. To be frank I enjoy the dialogue, but it`s a little tiring to contend with someone who isnt citing their sources or doesnt have the same opinion as me. Left and right need to talk. Us lefty`s are pretty bad at that.
 
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AverageJoe said:
Do you even read your own sources? Terrible headline not withstanding. That`s not what the article you cited articulated. I`m not sure I even have the energy to go into it. Ok I will, edit upcoming bear with me...
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Meh I'm done for the night. No I didn't read the article but I listened first hand when he admitted that the money could be going to terrorism.

Earnest said. "We know that Iran supports Hezbollah and the Assad regime, and it is certainly possible that some of the money that Iran has is being used for those purposes, too."
 
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