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Avery said:
And even though we'll never know, it would be interesting how Bernie/Warren would have stuck out this general. Biden does have an edge in that he's more moderate which probably does appeal to the disgruntled Republican/Independent voter who may simply be over Trumpism.

Even though I think Warren would have been a better choice, Biden was the safer choice. And the #1 goal should be exiting him - as far as 2024 goes, we'll see who spins out of the primary. I still think Biden is only going to serve one term, but it wouldn't be unheard of to go further. Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Grassley are both 87 now as was RBG so it's possible that if healthy, Biden will seek a second term.

That will be really interesting is the R side of the house. Will Pence try something out? I think he'd be swallowed up if Donny Jr. tries to give it a go or anyone from Trumpland. Nikki Haley or Ivanka could be a female face and you have a long line of people like Tom Cotton/Ted Cruz-types that will make a run.
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I think Paul Ryan will get resurrected and run on the ol return to “fiscal conservativism.” And he has less Trump stain that most, which will be a plus. The suburbs will return in droves.
 
tfivas said:
I voted for Trump. And a large part of the reason is that the entire campaign for Biden was "hey vote for me cuz I'm not Trump!".
That's not how you get my vote.
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What was trumps entire campaign based off? Far as I can tell it was "hey vote for me cause im not biden" in the way it was based off "Biden will bring socialism" and "Bidens america will be a bunch of rioting and looting" (which is funny because its happening in trumps america)
What awesome things did he campaign on? Is mexico finally going to pay for that wall this time? Is america finally going to be great again this time? What is his plan for covid? What is his plan for healthcare? How about wealth inequality? How about the national debt? How about education? What is he going to do about the division in the country? Does he have a plan to try to bring us together? Does he even want that?

You explained that Biden simply not being trump is not how to get your vote. So how did trump get your vote? What was his magic campaign strategy? Was it the R next to his name on the ballot?

Why didn't you vote for a 3rd party candidate?
 
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hate speech

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  1. abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation.
 
fishonjazz said:
What was trumps entire campaign based off? Far as I can tell it was "hey vote for me cause im not biden" in the way it was based off "Biden will bring socialism" and "Bidens america will be a bunch of rioting and looting" (which is funny because its happening in trumps america)
What awesome things did he campaign on? Is mexico finally going to pay for that wall this time? Is america finally going to be great again this time? What is his plan for covid? What is his plan for healthcare? How about wealth inequality? How about the national debt? How about education? What is he going to do about the division in the country? Does he have a plan to try to bring us together? Does he even want that?

You explained that Biden simply not being trump is not how to get your vote. So how did trump get your vote? What was his magic campaign strategy? Was it the R next to his name on the ballot?

Why didn't you vote for a 3rd party candidate?
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When Trump was asked what his agenda was for his second term he basically said "Well I'm really smart and awesome."
 
I’m taking November 4th off as I plan on getting super buzzed the night of November 3rd in celebration of Trump’s fall.
 
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Gameface said:
That is a lie. I NEVER said I would kill Trump in those words, at all. I Absolutely never wished harm on Trump supporters in general.

reported.
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I said something to the effect of "If Trump and I were left alone in a room together Trump would never leave that room."

That is NOT a threat against Trump supporters. I have never done that.

That is not me threatening to kill Trump, as it is a hypothetical situation that would not and could not ever happen. I am not actively trying to get in a room alone with Trump.

I got a suspension for the post I made (or at least a very stern warning/infraction) and I have not made any similar statements since.

EDIT: This is the thread in question I believe

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If there is a sacred element to human beings, and there is any sort of a connection between that sacred element and a person's body, then I don't think such things need to be disclosed before someone goes on a date. It just makes more sense, if respect is what is really wanted here, to disclose...
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Notice that a portion has been edited out. I don't have a record of what exactly I said. Needless to say it was not appropriate. What I do know is that I have NEVER threatened to kill Trump supporters simply for being Trump supporters.
 
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The Thriller said:
I get what you’re saying and I don’t disagree.

The american public is so stupid that name recognition is important. especially in rust belt states necessary to win the EC. People want a return to some semblance of normalcy, going with an old proven commodity is more safe than a gamble with an unknown.

I would’ve preferred Warren. I agree a lot with her politics and she’s smart as hell. I also like Mayor Pete. if we didn’t have the EC I think they would’ve been better candidates. But we need to win the EC which means taking a more conservative approach (no way a Harvard professor from Mass or a gay man wins any swing state) . His name recognition in those swing states is big imo.

get rid of the EC and I think you’ll start to see better candidates. The most popular candidate will win, not the guy who appeals to Florida and the rust belt. Getting rid of the EC would eliminate so many problems in our system right now.
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I liked Mayor Pete until he exposed how corporatist he is. Like he was racing Biden for the middle of the road. But, man, he sure talks pretty.

The only candidate in the Democratic primary who I would have picked Biden over was Bloomberg.
 
tfivas said:
I was already leaning Trump with an open mind to voting Biden. But just couldn't get there.
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Look, I'm not trying to get into it with you or anything, but honest question, if Biden had just said a bunch of nasty **** about Mexicans would it have helped bring you over?

I'm just trying to understand the appeal of Trump.
 
tfivas said:
I was already leaning Trump with an open mind to voting Biden. But just couldn't get there.
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tfivas said:
No that wouldn't have helped lol. My Mexican friends are voting Trump for what's it worth. I appreciate the willingness to have a convo with out fighting about our differences (they're probably isn't that many differences between us tbh).

I can't explain the appeal of Trump. I'm not the biggest political person but I just wasn't interested in a Biden presidency.
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I can explain why you were already leaning trump and explain his appeal to you. It's simple. Two party system. You are republican. trump is republican.



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Some people are so dogmatic and disconnected that all they can think in is broad strokes. Against abortion and gay marriage, vote republican no matter who that is. No matter what you might hear. He has to be better than everyone else because he doesn't want to kill babies. Or substitute in whatever broad hot-button topic you want. It works both ways actually, but it is a much bigger part of the Trump base imo.
 
Gameface said:
That is a lie. I NEVER said I would kill Trump in those words, at all. I Absolutely never wished harm on Trump supporters in general.

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Yes you did and it's why not a single person ever comes to your aid when I continually blast you for such hatred. I'm glad you reported me. I'd love to know how your behavior is acceptable here.
 
rare144 said:
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Why are we helping the Russians interfere with still another election? This is so transparent. I should think merely considering the source, Rudy Giuliani, would be way more than enough to not take it seriously. We went through Rudy’s BS at the time of the impeachment.

 
LogGrad98 said:
Some people are so dogmatic and disconnected that all they can think in is broad strokes. Against abortion and gay marriage, vote republican no matter who that is. No matter what you might hear. He has to be better than everyone else because he doesn't want to kill babies. Or substitute in whatever broad hot-button topic you want. It works both ways actually, but it is a much bigger part of the Trump base imo.
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Show me where you, @Red , @The Thriller, @Gameface , @FAILED STATE, @colton , @Avery have said a negative word about the Democratic party. Just one.

Here before you say anything, outside of a select few the Republican party is garbage. That's kind of why we voted away from out party.
 
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