2022 Free Agency Thread

[Saint Cy of JFC]

@Saint Cy of JFC

I usually somewhat agree with you but I think you just pretty much destroyed every argument you've ever had here by using such a useless stat.

BPM certainly isn't useless. Yeah it has it flaws. Bigs will often dominate a lot of advanced stats because they get easy counting stats on high efficiency.

That isn't Conley though.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

yeah according to BPM, Montrezl Harrell is ranked ahead of Bam and Robert Williams is ranked ahead of Rudy.

Oh, and apparently the GArBaGE Mitchell you often despise is the 19th best in BPM. And JAe CRoWDer is 61th best in BPM as well.

Speaking of shooting yourself in the foot. Whatever fits your narrative Cy no matter how ridiculous it is.

if you look at advance metrics only without referencing basic stats, both Mcgee and Boban should be max players.

What would other teams GMs say if you tell them Conley is better than those PGs listed cuz he's a "final piece" and has a better "impact of winning"? What has Conley won in his career exactly, besides making a Conference Final appearance as a bus rider with huge injury luck?

I think Mitchell is garbage? That's funny.

I've said countless times I think he is one of the best scorers in the NBA. I just hate his play style and think players his size are capped in what they can do. Doesn't mean I think he sucks. Sorry if you took some emotional trolling of the Donnie Boy Fan Club as me seriously thinking he is garbage lmao.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Any interest in one Joseph Howarth Ingles?

Always... in whatever he wants to do. I do think as a player he is likely done.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol, what a stupid argument. Sure he's getting paid...that's what contracts are for but not by LAC. Why would that bother other players that Houston is paying him his contract? You're embarrassing yourself.


Now, he's securing his path to a more-desirable team – the Clippers – by taking a buyout. Source: Rockets and John Wall have reached a buyout agreement, shaving $6.5 million off of his $47.4 million salary. The Clippers can pay Wall the taxpayer mid-level exception, which projects to be worth about $6.5 million.

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Only a select few players are bothered by the pay thing (like John Wall, the dude who was bothered that some random PG on another team made more than him). So if you're going to raise a huge stink about some select few players caring that much about intra team pay, I was just pointing out it exist for total pay outside the team too. Don't shoot the messenger for telling you facts.

 

[YoungJefe]

I think Mitchell is garbage? That's funny.

I've said countless times I think he is one of the best scorers in the NBA. I just hate his play style and think players his size are capped in what they can do. Doesn't mean I think he sucks.

Mitchell is like the perfect #2 guy if you have one of the elite players in the NBA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

With regard to John Wall. My guess is Clips got him so quickly because they agreed to start him. That was part of the issue in Houston. There is some stuff around Houston that no one will talk freely about... but they didn't want him around their young players for a reason. I think there could be some issues there but they may also move Jackson. I think Wall helps them but if I was them I would have a hard time banking on that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

With regard to John Wall. My guess is Clips got him so quickly because they agreed to start him. That was part of the issue in Houston. There is some stuff around Houston that no one will talk freely about... but they didn't want him around their young players for a reason. I think there could be some issues there but they may also move Jackson. I think Wall helps them but if I was them I would have a hard time banking on that.

Probably because he's a diva and actively embraces gang culture. Not really a dude you want around young players, especially ones like Kevin Porter Jr.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Josh Okogie did not get his qualifying offer and is an unrestricted FA. If its for a minimum I'd bring him in. Locke said something today and it rang true... said House and Hernangomez weren't like amazing for us... but the both played hard and it was really noticeable (said it like it was a problem for the rest of the roster). I would like to bring back House, Juan, and add a guy like Okogie who might just suck too much on offense... but he is a good defender and plays super hard. Having a few of those guys might help us have a few less Melatonin games. Guys fighting to stay in the league and prove themselves.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Probably because he's a diva and actively embraces gang culture. Not really a dude you want around young players, especially ones like Kevin Porter Jr.

I think there was an incident where he almost got one of their young players into some ****... It may have been Kevin. The reporter wouldn't elaborate. Lue will have his hands full with Morris, Wall, Jackson (his effort can ebb and flow)... they don't have a strong player leader.

 

[YoungJefe]

With regard to John Wall. My guess is Clips got him so quickly because they agreed to start him. That was part of the issue in Houston. There is some stuff around Houston that no one will talk freely about... but they didn't want him around their young players for a reason. I think there could be some issues there but they may also move Jackson. I think Wall helps them but if I was them I would have a hard time banking on that.

The Clippers look poised to be a contender and it was one of the only good playoff teams that he slotted in as an instant starter. For a team actively tanking there was no benefit to have a veteran like Wall taking minutes from their young players. He was around their young players and played 40 games for them the previous year, if you're looking to tank having a PG that's averaging 20/7 doesn't help your chance to lose games.

I think they asked him to sit out in hopes he might agree to a buyout but he wasn't going to sacrifice any of that money. I mean they still have to pay him $41M of his $47M but if they bought him out last year he likely would've asked for twice that much.

I don't think he'll be great for them but he's still a good playmaker, which is something they lack, and he'll get other guys involved offensively/take pressure of Kawhi and PG.

 

[YoungJefe]

Josh Okogie did not get his qualifying offer and is an unrestricted FA. If its for a minimum I'd bring him in. Locke said something today and it rang true... said House and Hernangomez weren't like amazing for us... but the both played hard and it was really noticeable (said it like it was a problem for the rest of the roster). I would like to bring back House, Juan, and add a guy like Okogie who might just suck too much on offense... but he is a good defender and plays super hard. Having a few of those guys might help us have a few less Melatonin games. Guys fighting to stay in the league and prove themselves.

Josh Jackson, Jalen Smith, and Jarrett Culver all fit into a similar mold.

 

[jom2003]

BPM certainly isn't useless. Yeah it has it flaws. Bigs will often dominate a lot of advanced stats because they get easy counting stats on high efficiency.

That isn't Conley though.

So you saying it isn't Donovan Mitchell either? But apparently he is trash according to you. Keep shooting yourself in the foot Cy. Keep shooting