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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

The 76rs are a team that needs to do something but they are very limited since they are over the 1st apron.

I also don't see the 76rs aging well with their current roster. Embid is constantly injured. George is old.

They seem more desperate than ever because their 2025 pick is top 2 protected so they have poor odds of keeping it.

Team needs appear to be a PF and an upgrade at backup guard. We have those!

Trader Danny has to have Daryl Moreys ring tone be jaws theme music... but what deals could we do?
 
Just sniffing around and it looks like they could trade their 2029 and 2031 picks. At that point, Paul George is 40 and getting paid big dollars.

Embid is 34 and on an expiring contract.
 
HermanG said:
I actually think Sexton may be more valuable as an expiring next season. His skillset is exactly the 1 year rental type where you know you get the immediate scoring help but you dont want to take a risk of handicapping yourself for next year if he doesnt fit.

20M 6-1 combo guard with limited playmaking and defense isnt on the checklist of building the perfect contender and thus you probably want to "test the product" first. If he doesnt fit, that 2nd year for 20M carries a big opportunity cost (or you have to burn another asset to dump him).

Outside of their core, contenders want flexibility to retool on the fringes to find the correct combination. Im pretty sure Sexton is seen as a fringe guy. No one points at him saying thats the missing piece from our core.
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I think you're spot on with the way Sexton is typecast. Whether that's fair or not, I think the Jazz have reinforced that perception of him. There are some guards who are small/bad defenders, but they are so good on offense they are still a premium commodity. Sexton was playing so well last year it made you think...from the outside looking in it doesn't really seem like Hardy is a believer.

As far as the financial situation, I could see it both ways. There are some teams (LAL and LAC are like this IIRC) who aren't going to be cap space teams next year but also likely don't want to re-sign their expiring guys. It could be appealing for those kind of teams because they don't have the ability to acquire someone with Sexton's salary next summer. But as expiring he likely opens up a new set of buyers....I'm just not sure anyone is dishing out solid first round picks for guys they are not so sure about.

We made two trades last year for very late/early second round picks. In a vacuum, I'd definitely say that Sexton is a better player than Simone, KO+Ochai ect....but how many teams desire Sexton more?
 
Another Sexton fake trade:

Sexton -> ORL
Bitzade -> SAC
Anthony -> UTA
Lyles -> UTA
Draft compensation from SAC -> UTA
 
I want us to move Sexton simply because I don’t see him on our next contending team. Plus, he, along with Clarkson and Collins, threatens our tank. Lots of games left. And tanking for the top guys in the draft will heat up after the trade deadline. We finally have an opportunity to draft a stud prospect. I want us to maximize our chances. If I were Danny and could find a trade partner, I would definitely trade Sexton (or Clarkson or Collins) in our situation.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
The 76rs are a team that needs to do something but they are very limited since they are over the 1st apron.

I also don't see the 76rs aging well with their current roster. Embid is constantly injured. George is old.

They seem more desperate than ever because their 2025 pick is top 2 protected so they have poor odds of keeping it.

Team needs appear to be a PF and an upgrade at backup guard. We have those!

Trader Danny has to have Daryl Moreys ring tone be jaws theme music... but what deals could we do?
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Their ‘25 pick is top-6 protected, which means if they basically stay where they’re at for the rest of the season are likely to keep it. We can’t allow that since they can edge us back in the standings, and if they decide they WANT to lose games will succeed.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I have absolutely no idea what this take could be based on.

When you're a 26 year old role player, well known around the league, your value doesn't really fluctuate in the short term anyway. It's mainly based on two things:

1) Your reputation as a player
2) Your contract situation

Sexton has been more or less the same player from the moment he first stepped on an NBA floor. Sure he's matured as a person, but all the same on-court strengths and weaknesses are still there.

Sexton is nobody's idea of a guy whose game is going to age well. He's entering the last phase of his career – probably 2-3 years – where he can still depend on his quickness. After that, he's done.
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At the start of last year he had negative value very clearly. While we want to continue to point out his flaws he has made clear progress with many things and been fairly consistent and healthy. Midway through the year last year he was definitely positive. Now this ain’t Zillow but you can simply look at the trends from last year in his play and with better play comes better value (shocking I know). I know there aren’t any players that live up to your lofty standards but even you should throw a few worthless firsts in the 2025 draft out for him (since you don’t believe in the draft either).

If you can’t open up basketball reference and understand the progress Collin has made then don’t talk to me about basketball TIA.
 
underdog said:
I want us to move Sexton simply because I don’t see him on our next contending team. Plus, he, along with Clarkson and Collins, threatens our tank. Lots of games left. And tanking for the top guys in the draft will heat up after the trade deadline. We finally have an opportunity to draft a stud prospect. I want us to maximize our chances. If I were Danny and could find a trade partner, I would definitely trade Sexton (or Clarkson or Collins) in our situation.
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I don’t see anyone on this roster as being on our next contending team. It’s been sad.
 
Houston only has 4 main guys in their rotation who has a positive offense box plus minus which is insane given they are currently 12-6 and sitting 3rd spot in a stacked WCF. They are an elite defensive team(3rd best) but very average on offense(15th).Tonight they just shot 35% and lost a very winnable game in portland.

I'd see them as one of the bigger buyers for offensive players like Sexton/JCs. Getting rid of Dillon Brooks and his 2yr contract would also be priority for them as they really don't need him when Eason/Amen simply do everything he does and better.

Collins or Sexton for Brooks/Whitmore and their 2029 FRP works. Or we give them 2 JCs for Jabari Smith/Whitmore/Brooks and 2029 FRP. Houston add the offense that they desperately need for their playoff push and we get two projects and draft capital to boost our rebuild.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
At the start of last year he had negative value very clearly. While we want to continue to point out his flaws he has made clear progress with many things and been fairly consistent and healthy. Midway through the year last year he was definitely positive. Now this ain’t Zillow but you can simply look at the trends from last year in his play and with better play comes better value (shocking I know). I know there aren’t any players that live up to your lofty standards but even you should throw a few worthless firsts in the 2025 draft out for him (since you don’t believe in the draft either).

If you can’t open up basketball reference and understand the progress Collin has made then don’t talk to me about basketball TIA.
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Obviously Collin has had stretches of good, positive basketball. Nobody's denying that. But as I said, this is a pretty conservative league and once you get a reputation, it's very hard to change it. That's the main thing affecting your market value.

Making matters worse (for him) is that Collin's player type is simply not in vogue. It doesn't mean that there isn't a role for him out there, but very small SG's are not high on anyone's shopping list these days. I think both the Jazz and Collin himself are well aware of that, but the PG experiments have not been succesful. He's a scorer through and through.

Teams don't look at Sexton's occasionally improved advanced stats in a vacuum. They know he's played a lot with Lauri, one of the best off-ball gravity guys / spacers in the league. Olynyk too. Either you use Collin as a rapid fire bench scorer with a very limited role (which makes the most sense for 99% of NBA teams) or you give him the ball, surround him with good shooters and tell him to go crazy.

Nobody is going to give him the latter role these days, not if they're already in possession of said good shooters – i.e. they're not tanking.
 
The good news with Sexton is that he is on fire from 3.

I think coming into the season there where three ways Sexton could increase his value: play a big role on a winner, shoot more 3s, and shoot a higher % from 3.

I think if he starts taking a higher volume of 3s then he's a really attractive trade piece to a lot of teams
 
NUMBERICA said:
Their ‘25 pick is top-6 protected, which means if they basically stay where they’re at for the rest of the season are likely to keep it. We can’t allow that since they can edge us back in the standings, and if they decide they WANT to lose games will succeed.
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I don't see any world that philly doesn't tank if they stay down through Dec.

1 - 6 protected isn't entirely in their control but they suck.
 
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