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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Beal would never agree to it
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Not this year but he might next year IF the Phoenix situation is bad and he thinks he’s going to lose money by being **** on by his current team. He’s made a bajillion dollars so I’d think he has other preferences. He sounds like he has the right attitude and I think it’s a non starter… I’d place a call if I thought I could get that pick with him but I’m sure I’d know the answer.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not this year but he might next year IF the Phoenix situation is bad and he thinks he’s going to lose money by being **** on by his current team. He’s made a bajillion dollars so I’d think he has other preferences. He sounds like he has the right attitude and I think it’s a non starter… I’d place a call if I thought I could get that pick with him but I’m sure I’d know the answer.
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Im going to go out on a limb here and say living in Utah while they tank isnt on his short list.
 
The suns don't have any additional assets to add to a trade but they are a prime location for Butler to go because they are reaching desperation.

What if the suns agreed to pay a hefty portion of Beals salary? In exchange the Jazz offered the Cleveland 2025 first as part of the package to Miami.

Essentially we give up a late first in a draft where 1sts aren't available. Miami gets 2 serviceable players and a 1st now. They lose their future first.

Beal won't agree to it unless there is something for him but the Suns benched him recently so things aren't necessarily pleasant in catcusville.
 
It's easy to shoot down Butler trades but there just aren't a lot of ways to make the math work.

I don't see teams lining up to pick him up for all the reasons Saint Cy mentioned. It's good analysis. But it misses all the reasons the Heat will be motivated to move on.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Jimmy Butler isn't going anywhere to play as a second banana. In his mind he's always the alpha dog.

To bring in a guy like that in January is far from a simple operation. The teams where he wants to go already have their alpha dogs in place, and everyone knows Jimmy can and will stir up trouble if he's "unhappy".

He also refuses to play analytics-based, modern NBA basketball. Strictly a midrange and post-up guy. That means that on 95% of teams, you'd either turn your offense upside down to accommodate Jimmy or risk pissing him off. Good luck.
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“Refuses to play analytics-based, modern basketball”

LMAO
 
There is a cost to Butler being a chotchski.

- 1.5 years and over $80 million left to pay on that salary.

A giant turd in the locker room constantly whining in the media.

Pat Riley is the ultimate mob boss GM and doesn't care. But the impact is being felt. And who will take Butler? It's a skimpy list.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Im going to go out on a limb here and say living in Utah while they tank isnt on his short list.
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Its not a limb and I acknowledged that its unlikely. If his ambitions are more money motivated though he may be willing to go to a non-contender to show out more. Detroit has been mentioned for many reasons. He still has so much time left on his deal this season it isn't likely much of a consideration is my guess. Right now he likely just want to ride out this season in Phoenix unless an awesome situation comes around. He's got kids and I'm not sure they are school age but moving in the middle of the season with a family sounds awful.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its not a limb and I acknowledged that its unlikely. If his ambitions are more money motivated though he may be willing to go to a non-contender to show out more. Detroit has been mentioned for many reasons. He still has so much time left on his deal this season it isn't likely much of a consideration is my guess. Right now he likely just want to ride out this season in Phoenix unless an awesome situation comes around. He's got kids and I'm not sure they are school age but moving in the middle of the season with a family sounds awful.
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I don't think any player is moving their family anywhere in the middle of the season / schoolyear. They'll just stay in a hotel until they figure out what they want to do.
 
This is a quote from Andy Larsen's Triple team last night regarding fan trade proposals on RealGM:

"It sounds crazy, but I know that some people in NBA front offices, including the Jazz’s, appreciate these kind of ideas."

If I'm reading this correctly it sounds like Andy is saying that at least someone from the Jazz FO likes to look at fan trade proposals.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I don't think any player is moving their family anywhere in the middle of the season / schoolyear. They'll just stay in a hotel until they figure out what they want to do.
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Moving with the family or being apart all the time is terrible either way. He has the final say and can just pass on all of that.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
This is a quote from Andy Larsen's Triple team last night regarding fan trade proposals on RealGM:

"It sounds crazy, but I know that some people in NBA front offices, including the Jazz’s, appreciate these kind of ideas."

If I'm reading this correctly it sounds like Andy is saying that at least someone from the Jazz FO likes to look at fan trade proposals.
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Big loss for the "these guys are professionals and you are just a dumb guy on the message board". I honestly think its cool and why wouldn't you take wisdom from the masses. They are smart enough to see through the obviously dumb ones and having 1000 monkeys hunt down some legitimate ideas is cool.
 
KqWIN said:
Are we living under a rock? Of course Beal will not want to come here.
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I painted one specific scenario where I could see maybe him being okay with it but it wouldn't be right now and it is a super long shot. He seems to have taken the benching basically perfectly. TBH I am not sure why Miami wouldn't just say "eff it... get the pick and Beal and see if we can figure it out". I think Pat lost his fastball. He is looking to the 2026 FA class and so many guys will sign extensions it won't really matter. Jimmy will wreck the next 1.5 years for them with no issue. He's a chaos agent.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
There is a cost to Butler being a chotchski.

- 1.5 years and over $80 million left to pay on that salary.

A giant turd in the locker room constantly whining in the media.

Pat Riley is the ultimate mob boss GM and doesn't care. But the impact is being felt. And who will take Butler? It's a skimpy list.
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A ton of teams would take him. Not a lot can afford him.
 
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