2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

[Tremendous Upside]

Not only are Sexton and Collins not involved in trades, they're not even in any rumors. I mean these dudes don't even seem to exist to the rest of the league.

Not surprising. They both had negative reps to begin with, and now the stench of tanking covers everything.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It helps if you're not tiny. Sexton is exactly the guy Young wanted on that possession.

Again - Sexton absolutely should have pressured the ball a lot earlier. He gave Trae a clean runway and that was that.

Dude shut up

 

[NUMBERICA]

And the good thing to come out of this for me is I can comfortably add a couple folks to the ignore list.

A litmus test for who should never be listened to.

I sincerely believe this is the stupidest **** I have ever seen debated in the 16 stupid years I’ve been on this site.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Playing around with the Spotrac trade machine. We still have our taxpayer mid-level exception to play with. Let's say Milwaukee wants to make a move to drop below the second apron to save some money or make another trade (they could aggregate salaries then). We send the Cleveland 1st this year (we already have a roster crunch) take back Pat Connaughton and get the 2031 Milwaukee pick unprotected.

Can you use the room MLE to absorb salary? Also, wouldn’t there be numerous teams that could do something similar (SA, OKC, Detroit come immediately to mind as possibilities)?

 

[jazznik]

Yeah I mean that moving screen had no consequences cuz it was a non shooting foul lol. Y’all are acting like Sexton had time to do some full assessment of all the risks and potential routes to defend that last possession. Like with 4 seconds left (who knows if he got a good look at the clock after all he just did) he can sit back like we did and analyze what the best way is to turn a 10% OT probability into a 5% OT probability.

Oh, I missed this particular defense of Sexton. Should we at least expect that Sexton could in those 4 seconds not completely lose his man steaking to the rim and then not miss Cody hopelessly signaling him that "Man, your man is running away right there, follow him!"? Or is it too much to ask our beloved defensive savant Sexton too?

It is pretty sad and pathetic when a rookie after several games has a better awareness of the defensive positioning and has to point out to the veteran his mistakes. But I guess I should just mindlessly stick to the oft-repeated statement of faith: "Sexton is really hustling on defense and has greatly improved his understanding of the game - it is only his 6' height that makes him a defensive liability".

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Can you use the room MLE to absorb salary? Also, wouldn’t there be numerous teams that could do something similar (SA, OKC, Detroit come immediately to mind as possibilities)?

We only have the room MLE but yes. It is $8M. Detroit may or may not have the room mle SA likely has full mle. OKC would likely be in the tax if they did... would have to look at it. Its new so we will see what teams do with it. It is an avenue to getting a deal done and I don't think a lot of teams will take multiyear salary but who knows.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There are like 5-6 teams within reach of ducking the tax and a few that likely want to save a couple bucks but won't get out of the tax. There will be an opportunity for us to help if we want to.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Not only are Sexton and Collins not involved in trades, they're not even in any rumors. I mean these dudes don't even seem to exist to the rest of the league.

Not surprising. They both had negative reps to begin with, and now the stench of tanking covers everything.

Several teams are rumored to be interested in Collins.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Love it or hate it, don't care. Thought I would post it.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Jazz get 2 x 1sts for facilitating the Jimmy Butt trade.

Suns upgrade beal to Butt.

Miami gets off Butler and have 2 players that help them now without jeopardizing their 2026 free agent aspirations.

Beal would have to agree to it and he probably wouldn't but we are paying 1 extra year more than we are currently committed to.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

If we were able to get these two picks for this trade, I would offer Beal`s agent an immediate buyout if he agreed to waive his no trade clause. His full salary for this and next year with maybe 10-15 million for his last contract year would not hurt our finances very much with where we are.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I dont think Collins makes any sense for the Kings either really. THey need to trade Fox.

Love it or hate it, don't care. Thought I would post it.

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Heat are going to want more than those two for Butler.

The Suns would have to pay way more than 1 first to get off Butler. Additional assets via the Suns would have to make it to Miami

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we were able to get these two picks for this trade, I would offer Beal`s agent an immediate buyout if he agreed to waive his no trade clause. His full salary for this and next year with maybe 10-15 million for his last contract year would not hurt our finances very much with where we are.

No owner is paying that much cash to buy a player out. That's giving up 110 Milly on the spot. That's a lot of $$$ for even an extremely rich person.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jazz get 2 x 1sts for facilitating the Jimmy Butt trade.

Suns upgrade beal to Butt.

Miami gets off Butler and have 2 players that help them now without jeopardizing their 2026 free agent aspirations.

Beal would have to agree to it and he probably wouldn't but we are paying 1 extra year more than we are currently committed to.

Beal would never agree to it

 

[Hedda Gambler]

No owner is paying that much cash to buy a player out. That's giving up 110 Milly on the spot. That's a lot of $$$ for even an extremely rich person.

It would count towards the salary floor that we have to reach, right? If so it would not have to be an extra cost as we would have to pay a certain amount in salary no matter what.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It would count towards the salary floor that we have to reach, right? If so it would not have to be an extra cost as we would have to pay a certain amount in salary no matter what.

Yeah but it's the difference between paying it all out at once vs over time?

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh, I missed this particular defense of Sexton. Should we at least expect that Sexton could in those 4 seconds not completely lose his man steaking to the rim and then not miss Cody hopelessly signaling him that "Man, your man is running away right there, follow him!"? Or is it too much to ask our beloved defensive savant Sexton too?

It is pretty sad and pathetic when a rookie after several games has a better awareness of the defensive positioning and has to point out to the veteran his mistakes. But I guess I should just mindlessly stick to the oft-repeated statement of faith: "Sexton is really hustling on defense and has greatly improved his understanding of the game - it is only his 6' height that makes him a defensive liability".

What are you talking about? In those 4 seconds there was no lost man streaking toward the rim. Young chucked up a half court shot while sexton was guarding him (his man)
Maybe your goal here is to just get ignored by as many people as possible. idk.

 

[fishonjazz]

Heat are going to want more than those two for Butler.

The Suns would have to pay way more than 1 first to get off Butler. Additional assets via the Suns would have to make it to Miami

Heat can want whatever they want but everyone knows they are desperate to get rid of butler, a 35 year old making 49 million (will make 52.4 million as a 36 year old) who also has some attitude issues and isn't considered a top 20 player in the nba. They may have to take what they can get.

Suns wouldn't be trying to get off Butler in this trade. They would be getting Butler from what I can tell.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Heat can want whatever they want but everyone knows they are desperate to get rid of butler, a 35 year old making 49 million (will make 52.4 million as a 36 year old) who also has some attitude issues and isn't considered a top 20 player in the nba. They may have to take what they can get.

Suns wouldn't be trying to get off Butler in this trade. They would be getting Butler from what I can tell.

The Heat havent really shown desperation. You dont suspend a player if you're desperate. Teams respect Riley. Butler is still a difference maker for any contender and wont just be a throw away. There should be a legitimate market to run the price up.

I mistyped Butler for Beal, obviously. The Suns would have to spend more than a single first to get Butler and get off Beal. That is an extremely gross underpay for Butler/getting off Beal.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Jimmy Butler isn't going anywhere to play as a second banana. In his mind he's always the alpha dog.

To bring in a guy like that in January is far from a simple operation. The teams where he wants to go already have their alpha dogs in place, and everyone knows Jimmy can and will stir up trouble if he's "unhappy".

He also refuses to play analytics-based, modern NBA basketball. Strictly a midrange and post-up guy. That means that on 95% of teams, you'd either turn your offense upside down to accommodate Jimmy or risk pissing him off. Good luck.