2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

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[Handlogten's Heros]

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Yeah I think unless they get Cooper (maybe Dylan or Kas would be good enough?) and then a decent trade presents itself... I think we are in the tank next year.

 

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Yeah I think unless they get Cooper (maybe Dylan or Kas would be good enough?) and then a decent trade presents itself... I think we are in the tank next year.

With heavy emphasis on the "decent trade".

Add Cooper Flagg to this current group and they'd still be absolutely terrible. I can see Flagg helplessly standing on the wing, waiting for the pass that never comes because Sexton has to go 1 on 3.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

With heavy emphasis on the "decent trade".

Add Cooper Flagg to this current group and they'd still be absolutely terrible. I can see Flagg helplessly standing on the wing, waiting for the pass that never comes because Sexton has to go 1 on 3.

Do you watch the team? I hear from some about Collin's shot selection or ball hogging and I just don't see it. He would be third in that measure imo on the roster. Either way if he is scoring as efficiently as he does while going 1 on 3 we need to build around him. All guards get caught with the ball here and there and have to force something. I'd say JC forces way more action than anyone.

Anyway... yeah the reason it would possibly rely on a good trade and hitting the lotto is you could convince yourself you have the guy in house now and even though he doesn't help you win there is enough justification to push in a little and let the guys roll a bit.

Odds are against us (and everyone else) so I think its more likely we land a Kas or Tre Johnson and then lean into the tank even harder for 2026 when there should be a few more difference makers.

 

[KqWIN]

If we achieve lotto luck and truly believe in our draft pick I think it opens the door to keep Lauri, though trading Lauri could still be the better route if that happens. If we don't, trading Lauri seems to be the right path. There was a window where I could believe in building around Lauri, but things haven't fallen in place to make that happen.

 

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Do you watch the team? I hear from some about Collin's shot selection or ball hogging and I just don't see it. He would be third in that measure imo on the roster. Either way if he is scoring as efficiently as he does while going 1 on 3 we need to build around him. All guards get caught with the ball here and there and have to force something. I'd say JC forces way more action than anyone.

It's all relative. Sexton isn't having a good year (nobody is) but he's still an experienced NBA player who has actual talent and skills (along with a ton of flaws, of course). Compared to the G-Leaguers he's playing with, Collin is obviously going to look like he knows what he's doing most of the time. He's in no danger of manufacturing wins, though... which is the story of his career.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we achieve lotto luck and truly believe in our draft pick I think it opens the door to keep Lauri, though trading Lauri could still be the better route if that happens. If we don't, trading Lauri seems to be the right path. There was a window where I could believe in building around Lauri, but things haven't fallen in place to make that happen.

Like if Cody didn't look like the worst player in the league and Taylor had shown some real steps/promise instead of breaking his leg I could get much more hopeful I suppose. Key looks like he may have taken a step after a slow start but he needed to take a leap to help accelerate the timeline. Its looking more like a 2-3 year tank which means go ahead and sell off what you need to to make sure you are bottom 4-5 for a few years.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's all relative. Sexton isn't having a good year (nobody is) but he's still an experienced NBA player who has actual talent and skills (along with a ton of flaws, of course). Compared to the G-Leaguers he's playing with, Collin is obviously going to look like he knows what he's doing most of the time. He's in no danger of manufacturing wins, though... which is the story of his career.

I think Sexton is doing quite well... Walker too. Not sure what you need for them to have a good year but whatevs. You can compare Collin's shooting splits/profile with many elite guards and he looks good lol... no need to compare it to G Leaguers.

 

[KqWIN]

Like if Cody didn't look like the worst player in the league and Taylor had shown some real steps/promise instead of breaking his leg I could get much more hopeful I suppose. Key looks like he may have taken a step after a slow start but he needed to take a leap to help accelerate the timeline. Its looking more like a 2-3 year tank which means go ahead and sell off what you need to to make sure you are bottom 4-5 for a few years.

Yup...outside of the initial Gobert/Mitchell trades, the only thing that has really gone right is the moves around the margin. Dunn, Simone, Juzang, Svi, Eubanks, even Potter. That's great, but a few years late when that would have made massive impact. I wouldn't say the draft has gone horribly, but it needed to go extremely well (I suppose it still can with lotto luck) to build with Lauri in mind. If we hit on the lotto, I would be OK with trying to trade for a second star and then we might be in business. I think it's fine to go either direction. If we do not have lotto luck, I would look at trying our luck again in 2026 and likely moving Lauri. Not only does Lauri pose risk to our tank, but if we keep putting him in the worst situation possible to succeed there's a lot of downside risk to keeping him on that contract. One bad year is fine, two off years and suddenly you've got to worry about how that massive contract is perceived.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yup...outside of the initial Gobert/Mitchell trades, the only thing that has really gone right is the moves around the margin. Dunn, Simone, Juzang, Svi, Eubanks, even Potter. That's great, but a few years late when that would have made massive impact. I wouldn't say the draft has gone horribly, but it needed to go extremely well (I suppose it still can with lotto luck) to build with Lauri in mind. If we hit on the lotto, I would be OK with trying to trade for a second star and then we might be in business. I think it's fine to go either direction. If we do not have lotto luck, I would look at trying our luck again in 2026 and likely moving Lauri. Not only does Lauri pose risk to our tank, but if we keep putting him in the worst situation possible to succeed there's a lot of downside risk to keeping him on that contract. One bad year is fine, two off years and suddenly you've got to worry about how that massive contract is perceived.

Just sucks that the trade market is going to be so rough for us to get real value on guys. DA hates missing out on bargains... can you imagine how much anxiety medicine it will require to sell off parts at a discount?

I'm not sure how much upside/downside there is to keeping parts of the infrastructure through this year. If we sell off Sexton can we move from #5 to #3... what if it requires Sexton and Kessler to make that "jump"?

Now that Key is back I think we will stop cutting it so close/winning games we should be losing. Its not that he sucks its just how things get placed in his absence and that he still isn't a big positive on court most nights. We have a **** ton of important games coming up the next 30 days or so... some tendinitis would be great right now.

 

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One bad year is fine, two off years and suddenly you've got to worry about how that massive contract is perceived.

Statistically, Lauri is having his worst Jazz season, but the difference isn't huge – considering his usage % has dropped, the team around him is absolutely horrible and he's even more a #1 target for defenses than before. I presume he'll finish the season pretty much at his career averages, if not better.

I mean the guy is averaging 20/6.5/2 as we speak. Hardly a disaster on an individual level, but it's obvious Lauri has been something of an "empty stats" guy this season. Teams have absolutely noticed that and it probably gives them some pause. With a max deal, his trade market may not be there in the offseason even if we decide to go that route.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Just sucks that the trade market is going to be so rough for us to get real value on guys. DA hates missing out on bargains... can you imagine how much anxiety medicine it will require to sell off parts at a discount?

I'm not sure how much upside/downside there is to keeping parts of the infrastructure through this year. If we sell off Sexton can we move from #5 to #3... what if it requires Sexton and Kessler to make that "jump"?

Now that Key is back I think we will stop cutting it so close/winning games we should be losing. Its not that he sucks its just how things get placed in his absence and that he still isn't a big positive on court most nights. We have a **** ton of important games coming up the next 30 days or so... some tendinitis would be great right now.

We will see if the market is dry. I think Brooklyn was just desperate to get worse. When it gets closer to the deadline teams will have to decide if they want a chance at a ring.