2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

[Jaanipoeg]

Would the Suns do Beal/10 for Collins/Sexton?

Could they theoretically provide us cash considerations of some degree and we buy him out? Then he might agree because he can still then go pick his next team, and allows us to have money on the books without returning production to help the tank next season. And then we're mostly just eating his player option next year.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Trading for Beal and insta waiving him is worse than trading for Lillard contract/cap wise, but PHX would have more to offer us. If we're being honest, the 1 year deal for Lillard is not worth much as cool of a story as that would be.

We cook our cap space for two summers but we get everything the Suns have left. I actually kinda love this.

Outside of #10, what do they even have that’s worth something? All of their picks or swaps are not all that valuable. I’d rather do a Lillard deal for some unprotected pick swaps than take on that albatross.

 

[KqWIN]

Could they theoretically provide us cash considerations of some degree and we buy him out? Then he might agree because he can still then go pick his next team, and allows us to have money on the books without returning production to help the tank next season. And then we're mostly just eating his player option next year.

IIRC, the limit for cash considerations is about $7.5M. You also have to be under second apron in order to send cash, but I Imagine PHX would want to get under it in this type of deal. So still paying Beal $100M+ to not play, but opportunity cost is no cap space this year (we likely would not have any anyways) and cap space next summer.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Dont think so. Durant was considered mid cost due to his age/contract where as I still think Utah is looking to make out like bandits on a Lauri deal.

I think they should strategically lose that trade tbh. Holding on too long demanding a “Godfather” offer will just blow up. Make it easy for someone to want to deal.

 

[KqWIN]

Outside of #10, what do they even have that’s worth something? All of their picks or swaps are not all that valuable. I’d rather do a Lillard deal for some unprotected pick swaps than take on that albatross.

They have the picks we sent them for their 31. MIL doesn't have much to offer either. PHX best offer would probably be #10, swap in 32, and then two FRP that would be the least favorable of a bunch of swaps. Still a lot more than MIL could offer, and I doubt MIL is putting 31 unprotected on the table in the first place.

 

[David Stern]

My read is that Phoenix is going to try and trade Beal for two weeks, and when that fails they’ll probably just trade Green by adding a third team to the KD deal

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My read is that Phoenix is going to try and trade Beal for two weeks, and when that fails they’ll probably just trade Green by adding a third team to the KD deal

Gambo is incredibly locked in with the Suns. If he says they are keeping Green, they are probably keeping Green.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Could they theoretically provide us cash considerations of some degree and we buy him out? Then he might agree because he can still then go pick his next team, and allows us to have money on the books without returning production to help the tank next season. And then we're mostly just eating his player option next year.

the most you can give in cash is like 3 million (not sure, but it isnt near enough to cover a Beal buyout)

 

[Coach Ellis]

Why would Beal accept any trade at this point? Also, that No-Trade clause should worry the heck out of any team that acquires him. If you want to flip him at the deadline in two years, he has to sign off on it. I’d talk to them, but it’s gotta be pricy to pull that trigger. I’m getting #10 outright plus any other draft assets that they can give. Still think a move for Dame is better value long-term.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why would Beal accept any trade at this point? Also, that No-Trade clause should worry the heck out of any team that acquires him. If you want to flip him at the deadline in two years, he has to sign off on it. I’d talk to them, but it’s gotta be pricy to pull that trigger. I’m getting #10 outright plus any other draft assets that they can give. Still think a move for Dame is better value long-term.

Only reason is because the situation is so toxic he doesnt mind leaving.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Only reason is because the situation is so toxic he doesnt mind leaving.

Doesn’t change the No-Trade after you acquire him. Regardless, if the Suns are willing to part with #10, then I’m having the conversation. . . but I’d be super worried about it.

 

[KqWIN]

Why would Beal accept any trade at this point? Also, that No-Trade clause should worry the heck out of any team that acquires him. If you want to flip him at the deadline in two years, he has to sign off on it. I’d talk to them, but it’s gotta be pricy to pull that trigger. I’m getting #10 outright plus any other draft assets that they can give. Still think a move for Dame is better value long-term.

He would accept a trade if the buyout/waive is already agreed upon. Would set him up to go wherever he wants and still get paid.

 

[KqWIN]

East teams should absolutely gun for it right now. 3 of the top teams have an achilles injury. ORL went all in....teams like TOR, DET, ATL, and CHO should follow suit and push for Lauri. This is their time.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Doesn’t change the No-Trade after you acquire him. Regardless, if the Suns are willing to part with #10, then I’m having the conversation. . . but I’d be super worried about it.

If you are getting Beal you are getting him knowing he has negative trade value.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Gambo is incredibly locked in with the Suns. If he says they are keeping Green, they are probably keeping Green.

I could see them telling him that as they may not have a current plan and then something coming along that makes more sense. The trade can't be completed until July 6th so they have time to include other teams.

Gambo is reliable though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He would accept a trade if the buyout/waive is already agreed upon. Would set him up to go wherever he wants and still get paid.

this is the conditions by which you should evaluate a Utah Beal trade. We straight buy him out and write off the cap space for 2 years.

 

[KqWIN]

this is the conditions by which you should evaluate a Utah Beal trade. We straight buy him out and write off the cap space for 2 years.

I personally think it's fine. Not sure if it's worth it to the Suns to trade big draft compensation, but I don't have super high hopes for our cap space to begin with. I don't think the other tanking teams are in a position to do this, so we might have an advantage. BKN probably isn't going to want to punt on their cap space so easily.

 

[Jaanipoeg]

East teams should absolutely gun for it right now. 3 of the top teams have an achilles injury. ORL went all in....teams like TOR, DET, ATL, and CHO should follow suit and push for Lauri. This is their time.

Honestly, I feel like anyone can talk themselves into contending in the East right now with a few moves. Cleveland still looks primed, but I don't think anyone is going to feel hopeless against them like they would have against say Boston coming into this last season after their last two postseasons.

It would be a little unprecedented given their position and pick, but I could see Charlotte getting loose with the #4 pick. 90% they regret it, but teams also regret being bottom 10 every year for a decade.

 

[KqWIN]

Honestly, I feel like anyone can talk themselves into contending in the East right now with a few moves. Cleveland still looks primed, but I don't think anyone is going to feel hopeless against them like they would have against say Boston coming into this last season after their last two postseasons.

It would be a little unprecedented given their position and pick, but I could see Charlotte getting loose with the #4 pick. 90% they regret it, but teams also regret being bottom 10 every year for a decade.

I've been listening to a ton of LockedOnHornets and it seems as though their fan base would be all for a push for the playoffs, and this was before the Haliburton injury. Given the actual success rate of a #4 I don't think they would necessarily regret trading it for Lauri. Lauri exceeds the EV and his presence would be timely in this weak East.

If the Jazz played in the East, I'd honestly be be pushing to move forward even with the potential loss of our pick. Things are wide open.

 

[framer]

I personally think it's fine. Not sure if it's worth it to the Suns to trade big draft compensation, but I don't have super high hopes for our cap space to begin with. I don't think the other tanking teams are in a position to do this, so we might have an advantage. BKN probably isn't going to want to punt on their cap space so easily.

It is super easy NOT to be involved with Beal in any way. Also, having him where he is at only helps our future draft pick. We should look for value elsewhere and not help the Suns at all.