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9/11/2010 Burn a Koran Day

Europe 500 years ago? Imagine the local reaction if they burned Books of Mormon.

Damn you are stupid. On HBO you can watch the whole temple ceremony in HD. That is probably a million times more offensive than burning Books of Mormon. But last time I checked I didnt see a plane full of missionaries slamming into HBO headquarters. There actually wasnt that much uproar here in Utah about it.
 
damn you are stupid. On hbo you can watch the whole temple ceremony in hd. That is probably a million times more offensive than burning books of mormon. But last time i checked i didnt see a plane full of missionaries slamming into hbo headquarters. There actually wasnt that much uproar here in utah about it.

lol, pwnt!
 
Burning a Quran insults every Muslim, not just the radical Islamists for whom the act was intended to offend.

Isn't every Christian insulted when a bible is burned regardless of why? Or every American when a the US flag is burned regardless of why?

The insult is there, but not everyone is offended.
 
Damn you are stupid. On HBO you can watch the whole temple ceremony in HD. That is probably a million times more offensive than burning Books of Mormon. But last time I checked I didnt see a plane full of missionaries slamming into HBO headquarters. There actually wasnt that much uproar here in Utah about it.

Honest question: Why is it offensive to depict the temple ceremony?

In any event, I think the implication of your statement (that Mormons are somehow more civil than followers of Islam) isn't well thought out. There's a lot of extra factors here including cultural norms, views about the role of church and state, and frankly issues relating to poverty and resource-dependence on religious organizations. Also, to pretend that the Church, especially the early church, was incapable of violence is either uneducated, deliberately misleading or both.

Certainly I don't think you can argue that burning the Koran has any productive value and can only be counterproductive. Would you agree with that?
 
As opposed to all the American flags and presidents burned in effigy that I've seen over the years?

I fully acknowledge that they have the right to do so.

My question that your statement dodges: Is it a good or prudent idea, from the perspective of international relations, national security, and America's image abroad, to condone or participate in the burning of Korans.

You seem to have completely omitted the possibility of taking the high road from your thinking.

The hypocrisy of the Islamic world in this regard is mind boggling. Their response to even hearing that a koran might be burned is to trample a US flag on the ground, call for the death of America and then burn the flag. I'm at a loss to see how there is much difference.

From the perspective of a follower of Islam it could be very different. For example, one is the burning of a symbol of religion and God. The other is a symbol of a particular political territory. If you believe that God is above all political territories (as I suspect many religious people do) then burning a religious object is far more offensive.

That's neither here nor there, however. Even if everything you say is true, do you think it's a good idea to go around burning Korans?
 
Honest question: Why is it offensive to depict the temple ceremony?

It's considered sacred. It's asked not to be shared and depicted for respect of those who believe and find the ceremonies sacred.

That's the short answer.

Why can't cartoonist depict Muhammad in cartoons?
 
It's considered sacred. It's asked not to be shared and depicted for respect of those who believe and find the ceremonies sacred.

That's the short answer.

That's also an answer that doesn't say anything. Let's phrase it a little more obviously: why is the act of filming a simulation of a temple ceremony (i.e. not an actual ceremony) offensive? Is it really that upsetting that someone who's not of the faith knows what happens inside the temple? They still can't participate in the actual ceremony nor are they able to view the ceremony itself being carried out in the particular place of worship.

Saying it's sacred isn't really an answer, it's a conclusion. I want to know specifically why the simulated depiction of a ceremony is so offensive. Even better would be a defense of why it's a "million times more offensive" than burning the book of Mormon. That comparative claim is interesting to me given that the latter is at least representative of the physical and metaphorical destruction of the religion and its ideas.

I regard the idea that Big Love should be constrained from simulating the ceremony (which, having seen the episode in question, there were valid artistic reasons for doing so) as just as ridiculous as South Park being prevented from depicting Muhammed.
 
That's also an answer that doesn't say anything. Let's phrase it a little more obviously: why is the act of filming a simulation of a temple ceremony (i.e. not an actual ceremony) offensive? Is it really that upsetting that someone who's not of the faith knows what happens inside the temple? They still can't participate in the actual ceremony nor are they able to view the ceremony itself being carried out in the particular place of worship.

Saying it's sacred isn't really an answer, it's a conclusion. I want to know specifically why the simulated depiction of a ceremony is so offensive. Even better would be a defense of why it's a "million times more offensive" than burning the book of Mormon. That comparative claim is interesting to me given that the latter is at least representative of the physical and metaphorical destruction of the religion and its ideas.

I regard the idea that Big Love should be constrained from simulating the ceremony (which, having seen the episode in question, there were valid artistic reasons for doing so) as just as ridiculous as South Park being prevented from depicting Muhammed.

You want to know specifics? How bout this. Mormons believe temple ceremonies should not be depicted outside of the temple because God said so.
 
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