AK+9th pick 4 Iggy+filler (build to keep Deron and make a title run now)

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by d@!!0n0rcutt, May 27, 2010.

  1. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    If Philly is going after Turner, which I know they can just go with Turner at the 2 and Iggy at the 3 or switched, but they also have Young which hasn't been given his opportunity. So for the incentive of getting rid of Iguodala they pick up another lottery pick and an expiring.

    Then we resign Boozer and trade Millsap to Atlanta for Pachulia. Trade Koufos and Matt Harpring's trade exception for Przybilla (expiring). Sign Joey Graham, Sasha Pavlovic, or Ime Udoka to part of MLE to take up all of our MLE.

    Through the draft we aren't going to get someone who can help us now, because if we want to keep Deron here we need to be building for a championship run in the next couple years. These moves would give us experience that we need and the length in the interior but especially the experience in the post that we won't get from any big man in the draft.

    Our line up looks like this...

    Williams/Price
    Miles/Matthews
    Iguodala/Graham or Pavlovic or Udoka
    Boozer/Graham or Pachulia
    Przybilla/Pachulia/Okur


    As David Locke has said we need that third scorer a combination of DWill/Iggy/Booz would give us those three scorers. BTW Boozer can sign with us for extra year and more money. Then and if Okur returns partially healthy we shop him for expirings, so we won't get hit with luxury tax to hard the following seasons.
     

  2. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    Or we could just re-sign Ronnie Brewer and not give up our best wing player and lottery pick.

    Also, you can't package a TE like that, and Portland has absolutely no incentive to give away Joel for Koufos (they're owned by Paul Allen, and Joel's contract is reasonable anyway).

    Millsap for Pachulia? Disgusting.

    Ime Udoka? Joey Graham? Sasha Pavlovic?

    Have you ever even watched any of these guys play?
     
  3. default

    default Well-Known Member

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    And have no 1st round pick this year? No Thanks
     
  4. green

    green Well-Known Member

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    I would much, much, much rather have Brewer than Iggy. Iggy sucks and gets paid like AK. No thanks.
     
  5. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    Yes, you can package trade exception like that, but you can't package trade exceptions together.

    Millsap isn't gonna wanna play behind Boozer again, and this way we get length and someone who isn't afraid to hack someone to the floor if they try coming in the paint.

    Those three players are players that are good role players that have experience, play pretty good defense, and also are athletes that can keep their man in front of them and hit an open jumper. I have watched alot NBA games and couple glaring things about our team is length and keeping up with the athletes on other teams.
     
  6. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    Brewer SUCKS! He can't hit an open jumper to save his life, and Iggy is an all-star caliber player unlike Brewer, they don't even compare.
     
  7. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    Still wrong.
     
  8. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    You don't get it...what we have doesn't work, it gets us 48 to 54 wins, and early exit from the playoffs, we need to change it up a bit to give ourselves a shot or we will just be cheering for the same thing each year.
     
  9. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    No I'm not, you can package the trade exception with a player
     
  10. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    No one in this draft is going to help us win now, and make any incentive for Deron to stay here in two years, sorry.
     
  11. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    I think the trade exemption has to be enough on its own to absorb the player coming back (I may be wrong here, actually). Also, I'm not sure if the 125% + $100k applies to TE's (what's wrong with me?).

    Regardless, why would Portland make that trade?

    Also, what does Iggy bring to the Jazz? Do you really think he's any better than AK? Do you really think dumping AK, Millsap and Monroe (or other rookie) for Iggy (who can't shoot) and a few scrubs makes the Jazz a better team? How?
     
  12. Qman

    Qman Well-Known Member

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    Umm you're still wrong.

    https://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

    See section 71-

     
  13. Bodhi

    Bodhi Well-Known Member

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    If I may interject and field this question: *clears throat*...... it doesn't..........at all.
     
  14. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    Pachulia, Przybilla, Graham make us alot longer and they are experienced veterans that know their roles and play good defense. Portland does this because they have Camby and Oden already and they shed some salary.
     
  15. GVC

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    Also, after verifying with those who know, the 125% + $100k doesn't apply to TPEs. The salary being obtained has to be within $100k of the TPE. The Matt Harpring TPE is worth $6.5mil and Przy will make $7.4mil next season. Definitely a no go.

    But, again, why the **** would Portland make that trade anyway?
     
  16. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    The Blazers are owned by Paul Allen and the Jazz are a division rival. There is no way in hell they make that trade. It's retarded. Absolutely ****ing retarded.

    And Iggy blows.
     
  17. YB85

    YB85 Banned Contributor

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    Never mind that Millsap for Pachulia is one of the worst ideas ever brought up on the board. Never mind that throwing in the #9 pick with AK to get Iggy and his horrific contract really would **** up the Jazz finances for years to come. Never mind that you can NOT package an TE, especially for a guy who might never play again. The deal killer for me is Vujabitch. If the Jazz sign him, I'm becoming a T'wolves fan.
     
  18. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    It forces me to pretend I'm not 1/4 Slovenian.
     
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  19. d@!!0n0rcutt

    d@!!0n0rcutt Active Member

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    Ok so a starting line up of...

    Wiliams/Price
    Miles/Matthews
    AK/Miles/rookie
    Millsap/AK/rookie
    Fesenko/Koufos

    How many games does this win you? Goodbye Deron in two seasons, and then Jazz suck!
     
  20. Chad Feldheimer

    Chad Feldheimer Well-Known Member

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    And if they don't get much better or even get worse then what?
     

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