AK Sucks in Olympics Operner Vs. GB -- only scores 35

[infection]

Did you not watch him play after he got paid?

I understand his offensive drop off, boozer Deron, and Memo were all better options on offense but his drop off in blocks steals and overall defensive declined is inexcusable. AK pouted which caused him to play to not work hard, and caused bad feelings among the coaches and players.

Problem is AK blamed everyone but AK. It wasn't Sloans, or Derons, or Boozers fault AK play suffered.
It was AK's fault.

I think this is the biggest thing people fail to realize. Winners win. Sometimes, winners also lose. The difference is that the real winners actually possess insight into why they lose and are able to improve upon it. Those who advocate for AK on the team really underestimate the psychological and sociological aspects of basketball, which transcend talent. AK wants to win. But winning isn't AK's primary gratification. He wants to have fun. That's fine and dandy, but that's not what you try to work around if you're really trying build a contender. This is the divide on the board: some want to see AK be about winning, some want to see AK having fun, and the rest delude themselves into thinking you can have both.

 

[MVP]

Did you not watch him play after he got paid?

I understand his offensive drop off, boozer Deron, and Memo were all better options on offense but his drop off in blocks steals and overall defensive declined is inexcusable. AK pouted which caused him to play to not work hard, and caused bad feelings among the coaches and players.

Problem is AK blamed everyone but AK. It wasn't Sloans, or Derons, or Boozers fault AK play suffered.
It was AK's fault.

Why I need to point again and again and again, that this is stupid and ridiculous and FALSE statement. His stats two years after signing max contract were equal or better then before. He lead league in blocks, became NBA All defensive player and had 5X6 after AFTER max contract.
Problems started in third year after max contract when Sloan reinstalled his PG to PF dominated offense and Deron decided that he has rights to freeze AK out of the offense. AK's minutes and FG attempts dropped drastically... any max player who was previously called face of franchise would be unhappy, some ask for trades, some will clash with coach, some start not coming up to practice... all AK asked is to get him same touches and role like before. Of course nothing happened so ignorant people think it is all AK fault that he is not blocking 3 shots a game anymore... Well let me ask you how you can do that if you play out of position and less minutes??? No wonder after winning gold in Eurobasket 2007 and becoming MVP and thus proving to all world that he is same player like in 2006 he asked to be traded. To bad he had no balls to stick to his request and accepted diminished role after that meeting with Miller and Sloan.
It is not AK's fault. It is Utah Jazz who made him max player but treated him like that for just two years. After that they kept paying him max salary but treated him like rookie.

 

[Sneakers]

Did you not watch him play after he got paid?

I understand his offensive drop off, boozer Deron, and Memo were all better options on offense but his drop off in blocks steals and overall defensive declined is inexcusable. AK pouted which caused him to play to not work hard, and caused bad feelings among the coaches and players.

Problem is AK blamed everyone but AK. It wasn't Sloans, or Derons, or Boozers fault AK play suffered.
It was AK's fault.

Buh-buh-buh... that was the summer Ben n Jerrys discontinued his favorite flavor of ice cream! He was a delicate talent... he needed to be nurtured! How could he be expected to perform without every single possible thing in his life and situation being perfect? I mean if Ben n Jerrys wasn't gonna give him the ice cream flavor he wanted, how could he be expected to accept things and buy in?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

huh? what hall of fame player? AK was only Jazz max player who should have been treated like one but instead was downgraded to role player by Sloan.
Pointless debate here, haters will hate forever, they just can't accept simple fact that their beloved Sloan sucked at utilizing unique talents. All he knew was to run PG and PF dominated pick and roll.

You can't seriously be saying that AK was a better offensive threat then Boozer? Boozer was a better shooter from midrange better slasher, and finisher, and didn't get the ball striped every time he went inside. AK was a better playmaker, but with a stud like Deron running point as one of the best playmakers in the league, the jazz just didn't need that as much from AK.

Instead of crying every other game about his touches or lack there of, he should've kept quiet, and stayed a team player, giving the jazz what they needed, which was hustle and great defense like he did before he got paid. It's not hard to see how and why AK grew out of favor with Sloan, and D-Will. They grew tired of his me first personality that he evolved into.

 

[infection]

Why I need to point again and again and again, that this is stupid and ridiculous and FALSE statement. His stats two years after signing max contract were equal or better then before. He lead league in blocks, became NBA All defensive player and had 5X6 after AFTER max contract.
Problems started in third year after max contract when Sloan reinstalled his PG to PF dominated offense and Deron decided that he has rights to freeze AK out of the offense. AK's minutes and FG attempts dropped drastically... any max player who was previously called face of franchise would be unhappy, some ask for trades, some will clash with coach, some start not coming up to practice... all AK asked is to get him same touches and role like before. Of course nothing happened so ignorant people think it is all AK fault that he is not blocking 3 shots a game anymore... Well let me ask you how you can do that if you play out of position and less minutes??? No wonder after winning gold in Eurobasket 2007 and becoming MVP and thus proving to all world that he is same player like in 2006 he asked to be traded. To bad he had no balls to stick to his request and accepted diminished role after that meeting with Miller and Sloan.
It is not AK's fault. It is Utah Jazz who made him max player but treated him like that for just two years. After that they kept paying him max salary but treated him like rookie.

So you can lump him with great company like Dwight Howard and Carmello Anthony. Great talents, indeed. Mentally? Not the guy you want leading your team... or even being on it.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Why I need to point again and again and again, that this is stupid and ridiculous and FALSE statement. His stats two years after signing max contract were equal or better then before. He lead league in blocks, became NBA All defensive player and had 5X6 after AFTER max contract.
Problems started in third year after max contract when Sloan reinstalled his PG to PF dominated offense and Deron decided that he has rights to freeze AK out of the offense. AK's minutes and FG attempts dropped drastically... any max player who was previously called face of franchise would be unhappy, some ask for trades, some will clash with coach, some start not coming up to practice... all AK asked is to get him same touches and role like before. Of course nothing happened so ignorant people think it is all AK fault that he is not blocking 3 shots a game anymore... Well let me ask you how you can do that if you play out of position and less minutes??? No wonder after winning gold in Eurobasket 2007 and becoming MVP and thus proving to all world that he is same player like in 2006 he asked to be traded. To bad he had no balls to stick to his request and accepted diminished role after that meeting with Miller and Sloan.
It is not AK's fault. It is Utah Jazz who made him max player but treated him like that for just two years. After that they kept paying him max salary but treated him like rookie.

Let me put it like this so even you can understand....

Deron and Boozer were better offensive players. AK shut down because because his offensive roll on the team diminished, causing him to not play his best, causing his minutes to go down.

 

[MVP]

Instead of crying every other game about his touches or lack there of, he should've kept quiet, and stayed a team player, giving the jazz what they needed, which was hustle and great defense like he did before he got paid. It's not hard to see how and why AK grew out of favor with Sloan, and D-Will. They grew tired of his me first personality that he evolved into.

You again making same incorrect statement. He gave Jazz great defense for two years after signing max contract. He played well with Boozer for two years and had no problems with touches or defensive hustle. Problems started in third year after Sloan changed things on offense and Deron was given free reigns.
You missing main point here. Jazz made him max player. They did not ask him to play just defense and hustle when they handed him max contract. You do not call role players "face of franchise " on max contract signing day. Jazz screw up and mishandled AK during his max contract's third year and started using him as role player. They made another mistake by not trading him for Marion in 2007, it would have been better for everybody at that time. Then they made a peace with AK by promising him something in that meeting. If you look at 82.games ratings AK was bets Jazz player in 2008-2009 season by Roland rating, better then Boozer or Deron and second best in 2007-2008 and 2009-2010. You AK haters will hate forever but you can't use ridiculous and false argument that "he was not playing as before after max contract".

https://www.82games.com/0708/0708UTA.HTM
https://www.82games.com/0809/0809UTA.HTM
https://www.82games.com/0910/0910UTA.HTM

 

[infection]

You again making same incorrect statement. He gave Jazz great defense for two years after signing max contract. He played well with Boozer for two years and had no problems with touches or defensive hustle. Problems started in third year after Sloan changed things on offense and Deron was given free reigns.
You missing main point here. Jazz made him max player. They did not ask him to play just defense and hustle when they handed him max contract. You do not call role players "face of franchise " on max contract signing day. Jazz screw up and mishandled AK during his max contract's third year and started using him as role player. They made another mistake by not trading him for Marion in 2007, it would have been better for everybody at that time. Then they made a peace with AK by promising him something in that meeting. If you look at 82.games ratings AK was bets Jazz player in 2008-2009 season by Roland rating, better then Boozer or Deron and second best in 2007-2008 and 2009-2010. You AK haters will hate forever but you can't use ridiculous and false argument that "he was not playing as before after max contract".

https://www.82games.com/0708/0708UTA.HTM
https://www.82games.com/0809/0809UTA.HTM
https://www.82games.com/0910/0910UTA.HTM

Let's call it a day since you and I have finally agreed in something: AK should have been traded for Marion. The front office was too sentimental.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This just in: AK looks still looks good in not the NBA and write4u still lacks a serious amount of mental faculties.

In other news, Germany surrenders!

 

[NUMBERICA]

Let's call it a day since you and I have finally agreed in something: AK should have been traded for Marion. Ownership was cripplingly retarded.

Fixed.

 

[enchilada_style]

**** hit the fan once AK had kids. Blame the kids

 

[jazzyapma]

Bravo AK. I wish you the best in Minny.