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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

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I think Shapiro wants to know answers to some of the things she says. If she gave Shapiro legitimate answers, she'd have nothing to worry about. If she didn't, then obviously she's making herself look bad. Shapiro would capitalize on it too and would be stupid not to.

She says some things I think a lot of people want clarified.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ecking-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-media-blitz/

Reading through that and some quick google searches I generally disagree with a lot of things she stands for. But she isnt someone I care about since she has very little to do with stuff here.

Maybe that is some of the reasons he wants to debate with her but I am sure he still wants to prove her wrong. She does owe her constituents answers and clarification. Politicians should be very open and not leave things to guessing and do things behind closed doors(one of the reasons I strongly dislike the SLC mayor). But she definitely does not owe him anything. He lives in LA right?
 
I mean, you did say he was owned by her and based it off of gobbledygook.

Plus, a lot of responses from members on Jazzfanz about Shapiro have been pretty negative, so I have a hard time believing you're in that big of a vacuum when it comes to him.

He has the second biggest pod cast on iTunes and has millions of followers. I read the news daily and see him come up a lot on various different news agencies. I'd consider you to be an informed dude who at least somewhat follows politics, so it's weird think you really don't know anything about him. I guess, I should give you the benefit of the doubt and apologize for assuming your intentions. My bad.

I based my opinion on those tweets. The only other thing I have seen from him is the video you posted of the debate. As far as she goes I have seen the headlines in the news about her and gave them a quick glance over but she is of little interest to me. So I have not followed her story much.


I dont really follow people of that nature regardless of which side they are on. I tend to stick to news, journals, and real information. From what I can tell he someone that talks and gives his opinions on stuff. I have little to no interest in that, especially with politics. I have my own opinions, ill stick with news and info for that. He might be mentioned in the news but that wouldnt likely to be an article I would read and his stuff does not pop up for me. That is more likely that you click on stuff about him so you see lots about him. Or at the least find him interesting so you would notice his name where I would glaze over it.

Maybe ill listen to him some more if he is providing good information or news.
 
I based my opinion on those tweets. The only other thing I have seen from him is the video you posted of the debate. As far as she goes I have seen the headlines in the news about her and gave them a quick glance over but she is of little interest to me. So I have not followed her story much.


I dont really follow people of that nature regardless of which side they are on. I tend to stick to news, journals, and real information. From what I can tell he someone that talks and gives his opinions on stuff. I have little to no interest in that, especially with politics. I have my own opinions, ill stick with news and info for that. He might be mentioned in the news but that wouldnt likely to be an article I would read and his stuff does not pop up for me. That is more likely that you click on stuff about him so you see lots about him. Or at the least find him interesting so you would notice his name where I would glaze over it.

Maybe ill listen to him some more if he is providing good information or news.
He's probably not going to be for you. He's a provocateur and does well with controversial topics. I know, I'm bias on why a lot of what he says and understand why it resonates with me.

I like how he speaks his mind, but only if he's done the research to form an opinion on it. I like how he's a walking encyclopedia and how fast his brain works. I know when someone knows **** about him when they call him stupid. It would be like me calling Kicky or Siro stupid. Even though we've had our disagreements, I'd be a damn fool to question their intelligence (there's a lit of smart dudes on here, you included.)

I probably like Shapiro the most, if I'm being honest, because he affirms my confirmation bias on many things. I still disagree with him on a bunch of things - I am liberal on a lot of things, but even the stuff I disagree with, he can debate why he feels the way he does way more educated than I can.
 
The thing with Shapiro is so many people paint him to be something he's not, or twist his words, or label him alt-right or use fear mongering tactics and propaganda against him. I mean, he plays that game to a certain degree with the daily caller, but at the end of the day, Shapiro is pretty level headed. The controversial topics he discusses he at least shows evidence of why he believes that way whether you agree with his rhetoric or not.

I used to think a lot of ****** things about Tommy Robinson because if things I was reading online or hearing. I thought he was a white supremacist and the Brittish version of the alt, alt right. Then I started watching his own videos and listening to what he says, his opinions on things, and his agenda. I've also heard him distant himself from beliefs he had when he was younger and explain why in a way I find convincing and sincere, he felt that way and why he changed. Imo, Tommy Robinson isn't a bad guy. I disagree with some of what he says, but it's bizarre to see his treatment. There's this one interview he does online where the news host is just a jerk to him, but he keeps his cool. The one annoying thing about him is he can talk over just about anyone.

This is a pretty interesting conversation where two people who think something about others, from what they see online, sit down and have a conversation. Just think if more people in politics did this instead of ******** on others, the world would be a better place.


I've never heard of either of these guys. That conversation between them was almost unlistenable for me. I'm glad they can find common ground on free speech, though. It is amazing how often people who claim to be proponents of free speech try to shut down the speech of those they disagree with.
 
The funniest **** about the media and other opponets is they expect AOC to have a bulletproof understanding of every issue off cuff in every interview and allow her no wiggle room for error or to misspeak. The mainstream corporatist media is ready to tear her down at a moments notice. Everyone wants to take her down. She has more pressure to know issues front and back than any Senator or Governor and she is just a member of the house.
 
Ben Shapiro is not a politician. He is a celebrity political pundit. Why would an actual candidate have a debate with a person who will never be held politically accountable by voters?
 
Anyone who truly believes Shapiro to be a heavyweight intellectual owes it to themselves to read this piece, and reconsider.

https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopher

I read about half of this and had to stop because I couldn't take the cringe anymore. This is just recycled material the left has said about Shapiro for years.

The guy even says - " here I am, a person who considers himself intellectually serious, and I have written off the other side without even engaging with its strongest arguments." So basically, you want a guy who's written off the other side to become the voice of reason and truth on the other side? Gtfoh. Lol

It started off hinting Shapiro isn't an intellectual because of his emotional comments directed at the clowns who protested him at Berkeley (because they're fascists crybabies.) Yeah, how bout no. Shapiro's treatment by the violent and sheepish antifa was baffling.

The line, "Shapiro scoffs at all claims that racism is a serious problem facing black people." Um, no he doesn't... Yeah, let's write a false absurdity and absolute about someone so people think he's a racist. The guy even hints that Shapiro is pleased at himself for being a racist. Shapiro makes arguments why he feels the way he does and provides reasons as to why he feels that way.

I'm sure there are some things in that article that are valid. Every politician is gonna have some **** on them, but the guy who wrote that is a far left guy trying to prove he's the intellectual. Sigh.

You're a pretty far left, progressive guy, Zombie so I don't blame you for thinking Shapiro is a dumb ****. It's hard for me to take you serious though when apologize for racist, embarrassing tweets and call them jokes though.

Maybe try not being manipulative next time you want someone to do something too? Did I really owe reading that to myself? Mmmkay.
 
The funniest **** about the media and other opponets is they expect AOC to have a bulletproof understanding of every issue off cuff in every interview and allow her no wiggle room for error or to misspeak. The mainstream corporatist media is ready to tear her down at a moments notice. Everyone wants to take her down. She has more pressure to know issues front and back than any Senator or Governor and she is just a member of the house.
Just a candidate to be just a member of the House.
 
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