An Alleged 1953 UFO Crash and Burial Near Garrison, Utah


babe

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If by "many", you mean a handful, or if "associated with, or influenced by, or knowingly cooperating with" includes associations, influences, and cooperations that had been abandoned a couple of decades earlier, sure.

You take on the Mueller report is laughable.

That said, I do largely agree that the Communism of Russia/China was/is in many ways a front for tyrants more than a sincere belief.

Well, sure, the report was laughable. A big goose egg, nada, zero, zilch.

The closest the sources came to Russia was a Russian native long established here in the USA with political connections to US politicians. And they found nothing on Trump beyond public diplomacy.
 


babe

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His coded language lol.

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When he talks expansively about a march on to a better world it's all about the agenda which requires keeping little people divided and polarized for ease of control.

He lays the groundwork for validation of racial issues like whether police in military formations are targeting black neighborhoods.
 

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Well, sure, the report was laughable. A big goose egg, nada, zero, zilch.

The closest the sources came to Russia was a Russian native long established here in the USA with political connections to US politicians. And they found nothing on Trump beyond public diplomacy.
Oh and a bunch of convictions.

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When he talks expansively about a march on to a better world it's all about the agenda which requires keeping little people divided and polarized for ease of control.

He lays the groundwork for validation of racial issues like whether police in military formations are targeting black neighborhoods.
These are your assumptions.
Assumptions are not the same thing as fact. Well to most people anyway. I'm sure when a thought pops into your head it instantly becomes factual in your crazy mind.

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babe

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These are your assumptions.
Assumptions are not the same thing as fact. Well to most people anyway. I'm sure when a thought pops into your head it instantly becomes factual in your crazy mind.

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No.

Obama has a long history of dedication to a kind of politics sometimes described as "Permanent Revolution". In his speech actually laid out his thinking on that line, with expressions of how we must never be satisfied, how what Lewis did was significant in his day, but how we must do more today, and how our journey must go on, at great length. He envisions a future of seeking more such changes for another 200 years.

You can listen to it and just think it sounds good, he wants things to get better.

I know he means to continually employ the power to government as the definer and implementer of "Change", a kind of government that will never be satisfied with human beings and will always need to enforce new ideals upon us.

People who want to make that use of government are and always will be totalitarian dictators. Obama lacks the realization that his pipe dream is a fiction, but he has no aversion to power or self-aggrandizing use of that power.
 

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No.

Obama has a long history of dedication to a kind of politics sometimes described as "Permanent Revolution". In his speech actually laid out his thinking on that line, with expressions of how we must never be satisfied, how what Lewis did was significant in his day, but how we must do more today, and how our journey must go on, at great length. He envisions a future of seeking more such changes for another 200 years.

You can listen to it and just think it sounds good, he wants things to get better.

I know he means to continually employ the power to government as the definer and implementer of "Change", a kind of government that will never be satisfied with human beings and will always need to enforce new ideals upon us.

People who want to make that use of government are and always will be totalitarian dictators. Obama lacks the realization that his pipe dream is a fiction, but he has no aversion to power or self-aggrandizing use of that power.
Blah blah blah Obama bad blah blah blah.

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trivial but farcical convictions. I suppose you wouln't mind if charges were made up on your friends so long as the trials were aggressively pushed to reach trivial results.
Lol. Even the courts are in on it. Anyone out to get your guys must only be doing it for nefarious reasons. Can't be that your guys did anything wrong.
You crazy guy.

The charges weren't made up you idiot.

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One Brow

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I was referring to his comments in his John Lewis eulogy, but it takes understanding clearly his coded language. He is setting us up for race riots on exaggerated or false assertions that there is actual voter suppression against blacks, or any other subdivision of voters.

This is one of several issues being run out today...... I decided to go to my fav expert on the subject...... Sonnie Johnson. First you militarize the police, and then you argue the police (militarized" are out to hunt blacks......

There is actual voter suppression of black people, by enacting laws designed to prevent/interfere with more black voters, under-supplying/supporting. It's not hard to decode.

Obama definitely got the police military equipment, but it's Trump putting out secret police to arrest protestors,
 

Red

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Your lying about me and what I say or think.

A lot easier to be dismissive with straw man argument.

I don't have time right now to dissect your fake construct of "modern day conspiracist". It's a gross simplification, and it's used to be dismissive of facts.

Well, take your time. My whole point was how simplistic these conspiracist formulas are. Including your own. And I’m not lying, I’m expressing my honest opinion on your numerous constructs where powerful people and malevolent intentions are concerned. And besides, you’re entitled to believe in any construct you wish, just as I’m entitled to think you’re full of **** much of the time. Sounds like I struck a nerve, but so what? Honestly, babe, do you think there are many folks here who actually buy into your rants?
 

babe

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Well, take your time. My whole point was how simplistic these conspiracist formulas are. Including your own. And I’m not lying, I’m expressing my honest opinion on your numerous constructs where powerful people and malevolent intentions are concerned. And besides, you’re entitled to believe in any construct you wish, just as I’m entitled to think you’re full of **** much of the time. Sounds like I struck a nerve, but so what? Honestly, babe, do you think there are many folks here who actually buy into your rants?

If I wanted to sing for the choir, I wouldn't be doing it here.

So I am getting two kinds of criticisms here..... first that I'm stereotypical whatever, for your convenience in response you don't even need to read what I write or say, you already have stock replies made up for people like me...... second that nobody wants to listen to me.

I don't think I agree very well with most conservatives. Not Mark Levin, not Glenn Beck, not Sean Hannity, not David Web, not Sonnie Johnson (who is hardly acceptable to most Republicans in fact), not Mike Lee, not DJ Trump Sr or Jr. But you think you can skim over anything I say knowing it's just standard conservative tripe. What I do notice is that advocates on the Left practically refuse to read anything that doesn't just validate their own position.

What I think is the case with this joint, is that there are some serious political hacks here from the progressive profession. There's a little leadership ring, but they are too damn busy to come in here with comments. Instead, they supply standard sorts of perspectives and encourage compatible views, while actually being not just scornful or dismissive of conservatives. We have a general phenomena going on in our media and social platforms that is installing a sort of compliance measure much like what prevails now in China.

Intolerance on the Left is a pretty strong trend.

It has been unfruitful for me to try to shake up the world view of you or anyone else making this place home.

Today, I was at a gathering where Mark Eaton came because someone in my family was his friend. The joke was put out that another of my family, a prodigiously successful basketball fan, was intending to buy the Jazz. No, it was a joke. Jazz not for sale???? Another at the gathering announced he was preparing for the walk-on tryout this coming round.

Mark Eaton was involved for years in a public service charity run by my relative. He is such a very decent man...... I mean Mark Eaton. I have immense respect for him.
 

Archie Moses

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Screw the moon landings, let's talk about something that has way more traction than those who deny them, demand evidence, or roll their eyes.

UFOs. They're, 100%, real regardless of your opinion or if you've never seen one.

I doubt we'll learn much if anything, but here's the random relief bill.



Not new or leaked. The video is interesting and may be explained. A UFO sighting, at the time, nonetheless.

I saw this behind my house a few weeks ago bouncing back and forth for about 5 minutes until it shot up into the sky. I'm definitely not saying it's aliens. I’ve definitely never seen any like it before. #ufo #ufosighting #ufosightings


This is the third weirdest UFO sighting I've seen. Just like bigfoot, it's blurry af and doesn't show exactly what I watched. Lol (I don't believe in bigfoot - it's just a joke mocking the clarity.)

Basically, it was a light miles off (I can't begin to say how many or exactly how far, but it was in the direction of Camp Williams. If I had to guess, I'd say 2 - 3 miles away.)

The light was pulsating and bouncing back and forth. I've never witnessed anything like it before and it's hard to explain the "pulsating" part - as much as that makes me uncomfortable to say.

I have 3 videos of the object that make up to 3 minutes or so. I filmed it on my Galaxy Note20 Ultra.

My best guess is a light or laser (or something I'm ignorant of) was bouncing back and forth and shot up to the sky. Probably a seagull, flashlight, satellite or airplane *insert sarcasm here.* lol

What do you guys think about UFOs and or aliens?
 

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