Emedicinehealth would argue with you
https://www.emedicinehealth.com/asthma_faqs/page5_em.htm
I will not.
But either way, I did not miss it. The hippy website did.
Another blow to homeopathy
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Emedicinehealth would argue with you
https://www.emedicinehealth.com/asthma_faqs/page5_em.htm
I will not.
But either way, I did not miss it. The hippy website did.
MVP
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Wasn't arguing with you either...Just saying that immunotherapy is known to work for decades and that it is not homeopathy. Hippy website is trying to sell it as homeopathy when it is not.
well, i for one don't believe an article put out with such a biased perspective, published in a journal heavily supported bt pharmaceutical advertising.
Homeopathy has many schools of thought and practice. It has been under assault from allopathic practitioners for many decades, and is difficult to assess by the randomized, double-bind standard. No research funds have ever been allocated to study the treatments, so nobody actually knows anything about it.
Hope is sometimes as good as medicine, maybe better than medicines synthesized from carcinogenic petrochemicals in industries owned by the same cartels that flocked to Germany to evade U.S. antitrust laws In the late 1920s to 30s, who today have most of our legislatures and regulatory agencies in their pockets.
Homeopathy has many schools of thought and practice. It has been under assault from allopathic practitioners for many decades, and is difficult to assess by the randomized, double-bind standard. No research funds have ever been allocated to study the treatments, so nobody actually knows anything about it.
Hope is sometimes as good as medicine, maybe better than medicines synthesized from carcinogenic petrochemicals in industries owned by the same cartels that flocked to Germany to evade U.S. antitrust laws In the late 1920s to 30s, who today have most of our legislatures and regulatory agencies in their pockets.
Well, I for one don't believe a treatment that has no factual basis and has provided no evidence of it's efficacy, supported by quacks and mystics.
Well, I for one think people have the right to pick their own poisons.
The Blue Elephant
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Homeopathy is like if you mix ebola with water and dilute it over and over again that super diluted product would cure you for ebola. It is pure crap.
However, if I knew someone that was taking standard medicine AND homeopathy for something like cancer I wouldn't tell them it was ******** unless they ask me. Don't want to add another worry to someones problems.
However, if I knew someone that was taking standard medicine AND homeopathy for something like cancer I wouldn't tell them it was ******** unless they ask me. Don't want to add another worry to someones problems.
Absolutely. Babe makes a point about the power of positive thinking.
MVP
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There was this old Asian medical idea of self cure with positive thinking. Stare at mirror with wide open smile ( the description was - "smile of an happy idiot") for 30 min was suppose to cure headaches and other minor pains. Tricking your body into feeling good and producing extra endorphins.
Smiling no matter what, staying positive ( no matter who KOC drafts), not stressing out for minor things can only be positive for your body.
Smiling no matter what, staying positive ( no matter who KOC drafts), not stressing out for minor things can only be positive for your body.
You and Game and OP have no scientific credibility with hearsay/anecdotal/strawman/troll stuff like this. The gov./Pharma/statist/UN agenda you are supporting is an authoritarian smack down on human liberty in regard to the fundamental rights to ask questions and make personal decisions.
You are dishonest in not linking your actual "solution" to the problem human freedom as a UN authoritarian regime with the power to enforce state monopolies/fascist corporates with unlimited power to dictate every decision in life through some bureaucratic pinhead tyrant.
The UN program is not discussed in mainstream media. Butithas more actual power now than any elected representative in our constitutional government. We don't ever get to vote for any UN official or law or program. It is fascism gone amok, and it's owned and operated, like our mainstream press by the corporate progeny of the fascists who ran the death camps in Germany during WWII.
Good science requires objectivity. "Homeopathy" isn't good science, it isn't even based on a scientific method, but allopathic medicine is known to have serious problems today with medicines being approved without enough research having serious negative impacts on patients.
The Pharma/healthcare monopolists are the worse scammers today than the unorganized frauds.
We don't take homeopathy seriously therefore we are agents of UN facism? Huh?
Deep end, meet babe. You two are going to be spending a lot of time together.
Although babe is clearly in the deep end, to be fair there are far too many physicians I've met that are in the same class as Frank Burns
Moral of the story - The line between the practices hippy nonsensical "physicians" employ and the medicine that a second or third year resident uses is often very wide, and well more than 50 shades of gray.
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Homeopathy, at the root of its term & history, refers to "like cures like".
It's the referral of treating your body to a small/harmless dose of something that is typically harmful in order to spur your immune system into recognizing it, and adopting the appropriate response/machinery to react to it in full in case you ever encounter the full/potent dose of the sickness you're trying to avoid.
Vaccination (or inoculation-- as its primitive variant was once called) was actually a practice touted by homeopaths centuries ago. The most famous example is taking some thing that's LIKE smallpox but harmless to humans (cowpox) to have the human body launch an immune response to all viruses similar to cowpox (including smallpox). The idea of vaccines is still the same-- we disable a virus, throw it into the body, get the body to make antibodies & T-cells against it-- and now we have extended resistance to all viruses similar to that one original virus.
Nowadays, homeopathy still has the same idea-- but they tend to assume that certain botanical extracts, at very very minute doses can be potent enough to spur immune reaction & quell some sort of ailment you're dealing with. As some of these doses are so minute, many rightfully assume that you're basically drinking expensive water.
To this day, there hasn't been any consensus overwhelming, definitive published literature that supports Homeopathy. Until then, it's best that you really look into the science of every homeopathic drug that you purchase. Otherwise, it functions as an expensive placebo (and placebo ain't necessary a bad thing).
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It's the referral of treating your body to a small/harmless dose of something that is typically harmful in order to spur your immune system into recognizing it, and adopting the appropriate response/machinery to react to it in full in case you ever encounter the full/potent dose of the sickness you're trying to avoid.
Vaccination (or inoculation-- as its primitive variant was once called) was actually a practice touted by homeopaths centuries ago. The most famous example is taking some thing that's LIKE smallpox but harmless to humans (cowpox) to have the human body launch an immune response to all viruses similar to cowpox (including smallpox). The idea of vaccines is still the same-- we disable a virus, throw it into the body, get the body to make antibodies & T-cells against it-- and now we have extended resistance to all viruses similar to that one original virus.
Nowadays, homeopathy still has the same idea-- but they tend to assume that certain botanical extracts, at very very minute doses can be potent enough to spur immune reaction & quell some sort of ailment you're dealing with. As some of these doses are so minute, many rightfully assume that you're basically drinking expensive water.
To this day, there hasn't been any consensus overwhelming, definitive published literature that supports Homeopathy. Until then, it's best that you really look into the science of every homeopathic drug that you purchase. Otherwise, it functions as an expensive placebo (and placebo ain't necessary a bad thing).
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Probably unfair of me to lock up an individual liberties Libertarian in the same nutcase category as willing tools of megalomaniacal statist s like David Rockefeller, like I consider Siro and MVP often seem to be,
If you don't like being taken that way, don't quack the same way they do.
All kinds of experimental notions, together will traditional practices like acupuncture, as well as health practices rooted in common sense, but which are grossly abused by many "Medicine Show" frauds as well, represent unwanted " competition" to both corporate medical industries and government schemes for managing the citizenry with central authority.
It is a fact of our lives that corporate lobbyists have inordinate influence in every level of government, so I'm not getting on the bandwagon to cheer with the authoritarians no matter how many scientists roll over for them to get research funds in exchange for the reports they want.
Common sense self-management of your health today could include use of vitamin supplements within non-toxic ranges, or avoiding processed foods and food ingredients, purified sugar, salt, high-fructose corn syrup, and alternative treatments of illness or disease addressing some deficiency or or causative state/stress, in contra distinction to chemical (pharmaceutical) that treats mere symptoms, particularly when that treatment generates other problems and literally endless prescription drugs.
People who get sucked in to the Big Pharma scam are dying by the thousands every day from internal organ failures which are greatly affected by the cumulative toxicities of all our "medicines", while many countries with less "health care" have better health and longer life stats.
People who get sucked in to the Big Pharma scam are dying by the thousands every day from internal organ failures which are greatly affected by the cumulative toxicities of all our "medicines", while many countries with less "health care" have better health and longer life stats.
Beer
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I would 100% agree with this. I do think big pharma pills have their place in extreme circumstances like pain and such. But as a whole just being healthier and responsible for what goes into your body makes a gigantic difference.
I'd like to see someone pony up a testable hypothesis, then do research on it that others could repeat to verify the findings.
I might try something unproven myself if I think it might help, but mostly I think doctors are like lawyers. It's a bad day when your shadow darkens their doors. I'll buy law books and medical texts, and research the stuff found through their research/resource lot, and figure out hoe not to need them, if possible.
Well, I should learn to do stitches and set ones myself too, but since time gets to be an issue sometimes, if you can just be a well-informed patient, they can be worth what they are paid.
It is not a scientific theory and it makes no scientific hypotheses. It is not an attempt to explain observations, it does not make testable predictions, and it doesn't provide any possible mechanisms for pretty miraculous claims. Not all ideas are created equal, and I'm perfectly happy mocking and dismissing ******** without a second thought.
Nobody is trying to take away your ability to make stupid decisions. People have been selling homeopathic placebos for a century now. Here at the government/corporates/NGOs/cookie monster/Illuminati, we are concerned about other things, like faking bombings with smoke machines.
I would be more than happy to discuss the merits of my worldview compared to yours. But I will only discuss it through logic and rational analysis. My past experience debating you indicates that you won't. Instead, you'll take a religious position that you consider to be inherently true.
What power would that be? The UN is completely neutered and without any real power. I can only WISH that wasn't the case.
And what objectivity have you used to evaluate homeopathy? You seem attracted to it merely because of its conspiratorial nature. And baseless paranoia over everyone trying to screw you over is most certainly not objective evidence for anything. I, on the other hand, am dismissing it for perfectly objective reasons; if there was even the slightest truth to homeopathy, then tap water, with its endless trace minerals, would have already cured everything. But then again, homeopathic remedies have even less in them than tap water. Your point about mainstream medicine is irrelevant. Of course medicines have side effects. The body is complicated and introducing a foreign substance has a cost. Is all of academia in on this conspiracy too?
It is funny how for spiritualists, objectivity is used sparingly whenever it seems to confirm a desired perspective. Biological evolution, which is a fact with an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence that is agreed upon by all biologists from all kinds of religions and ideologies, is summarily dismissed as it doesn't fit with what you decided the reality should be. Garbage spouted by a couple of ignoramuses on Youtube deserves all the attention in the world because it fits with the delusions of a worldwide conspiracy to oppress you. I am finished trying to be pragmatic to spare feelings. You are as far from being objective as they come. Whenever it suits you, rationality becomes the delusion of pretentious intellectuals (who disagree with you). Other times, nothing is more important than rationality! You're the dishonest one, not me.