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[aybars]

I still have two big concerns with Kanter:

1. Can he pass the basketball? I'm not sure I've seen him pass the ball once after receiving the ball in the post.

2. Although he's very willing to set screens, he doesn't always do a very good job. He should spend some time working with Omer Asik, who has been absolutely amazing in PnR situations these last two games. Very fun to watch.

+1

 

[GVC]

+1

I hadn't seen Asik play very much (I may have seen him in spot minutes for the Bulls last year) before yesterday. His dives to the basket and hammer dunks are really fun to watch, and I was surprised how crafty he is with his back to the basket. I wouldn't be surprised if he supplants Boozer in the Bulls' rotations sometime in the next couple years (although his free throw shooting looks pretty bad, and his skill set duplicates Joakim Noah's more than a little bit).

 

[jazzfan1132]

besides horrible turkish team (coaching) Kanter looks good, i havnt seen all his minutes but what i saw makes me happier that we take him at 3rd pick.

Kid can rebound no doubt, he doesnt have Rodman rebound killing instinct but looks like he has luck around the rim and can play there.
Enes has willingness at defence , a lot room to improve at NBA level, but no Boozer sleepness and careless.
Corbin and Jazz offence will make him double-double man that's for sure.

with Portland's already good team, OKC sensation, LAL and MAVS, Clipps Suns Warrs and Pop spur WE HAVE to be PATIENT for few years.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I still have two big concerns with Kanter:

1. Can he pass the basketball? I'm not sure I've seen him pass the ball once after receiving the ball in the post.

2. Although he's very willing to set screens, he doesn't always do a very good job. He should spend some time working with Omer Asik, who has been absolutely amazing in PnR situations these last two games. Very fun to watch.

I've seen Kanter more than most and come to think of it, don't ever recall seeing much passing. His screening will be fine, fast, just rust imo. The passing, though, probably is something he needs to get coached up.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

His rotations are awful. Maybe he's not trying to win yet, since these games don't count(?).

As Cyrone said above, Asik-Kanter-Ilyasova should be playing 30+ minutes, as they seem to be the only players who attack the basket, rebound and play defense (even though Ilyasova didn't shoot well this game). Akyol and Hedo are clueless, it seems. Does Turkey have no decent guards?

I ask this in all seriousness. Is there the potential that the coach is not playing these guys as much because he/the country views these guys as jumping the Turkish bandwagon by going to the NBA? I doubt it. Why play them at all then? But the thought crossed my mind that maybe he's playing those he sees as his true countrymen.

 

[cowhide]

Perhaps Kanter isn't passing because he knows that the Turkey guards won't pass it back. I think both defense and passing can be coached so I am not concerned. Besides he will be playing with more talented players in the NBA. I think the kid is going to be good because he plays hard, has talent and seems to want to get better. I just wish the NBA would get their crap together and sign a CBA so there would be some basketball.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I ask this in all seriousness. Is there the potential that the coach is not playing these guys as much because he/the country views these guys as jumping the Turkish bandwagon by going to the NBA? I doubt it. Why play them at all then? But the thought crossed my mind that maybe he's playing those he sees as his true countrymen.

Hedo? I think hes just insisting on playing veterans for whatever reason, or perhaps as someone mentioned, simply lineup testing. If hes smart he'll realize the impact players like Ilyasova, Kanter and Asik had on this game and will play them together in the Eurobasket. These games are meaningless, after all. I mean the Turkish coach cant possibly be THAT stupid, I haven't coached a lick of basketball and I am noticing this, I am expecting him to see it as well. Quite frankly I cannot wait till the actual tournie starts, we'll see how the coach performs legitmately then.

 

[WinningUgly]

Man I hate to be Orlando right now holding on to Hedo's contract. He looks just terrible. He was always lazy but now he just can't turn it on when he wants to. I agree that perhaps starting Emir Preldzic instead of him or at least giving him the quality minutes would be better for Turkey. Tunceri-Preldzic-Ilyasova-Asik-Kanter is perhaps Turkey's most productive five. Also it is interesting that with Arslan playing like crap, the coach is not thinking of Balbay more. He seems to be the energizer that Turkey might need. So he can't score, which one of Turkey's point guards can? Also this team could really use a healthy Okur. Playing next to Kanter, Asik or Erden would be a great combination of inside-outside and raise Turkey's point production by about 15 points per game.

 

[bat]

The good news with kanter is that at this point in his career, he's already able to affect the game while he's on the floor. He isn't dominating, but he has an affect on the glass, and actually seems like a solid man defender. After having not played in two years, I'm satisfied with that. As he progresses, and gets stronger, and gets more experience, I think he'll be very solid.

 

[prodigy]

The good news with kanter is that at this point in his career, he's already able to affect the game while he's on the floor. He isn't dominating, but he has an affect on the glass, and actually seems like a solid man defender. After having not played in two years, I'm satisfied with that. As he progresses, and gets stronger, and gets more experience, I think he'll be very solid.

Figure he's not going to see a whole lot of action his first years with the jazz so if he's making the most out of his time on his floor is a good sign.

 

[MVP]

My concern with Kanter after seeing few of these friendlies is that he mostly duplicates what big AL does just not as good. So why Jazz drafted him and what plan is for him I am not so sure unless they planning to part with big Al. His screen setting and help defense is bad although man to man defense in the post is pretty good. Other concern I have he has very little lift after grabbing offensive rebounds and most of these putbacks and short jumpers will be swatted away by taller and more athletic NBA defenders. He does have tremendous upper body strength for 19 year old so if he learns how to use it effectively and create more space aka Malone lack of lift will not be as concerning. Also he looks shorter then 6'11, standing next to Koufos or Kaman or Fesenko who are all supposed to be 7 ft tall he looks at least two inches shorter.
Again these games are not great to judge about his offensive overall skills as Turkish team is just horrible so far and is not utilizing Kanter's mid range game at all, I don't remember him taking any 15-18ft jumpers except one miss from ft line vs Ukraine.
I just hope those knee braces means nothing... kind of strange to see 19 year old wearing them.

 

[GVC]

My concern with Kanter after seeing few of these friendlies is that he mostly duplicates what big AL does just not as good.

I dunno. He runs the floor A LOT better than Big Al, boxes out and pursues rebounds better, and seems to have a lot better defensive awareness (I think his team D has been extremely good the last two games). He also seems to not shy away from contact on offense, and ends up drawing a lot of fouls as a result. Obviously, these things may not translate at the NBA level, but I prefer what he brings to the table over what Big Al brings to the table (albeit at an unpolished level). It would be nice to see him get a little more lift on putback attempts- and his combine numbers make it seem as though he could improve in that area- but there's a lot to like.