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[MVP]

I tend to agree with the other posters who have said that Kanter/Favors > JV/Favors. Offensively I think they compliment each other better as Kanter looks to be able to have a solid midrange game which looks like could be extended to about 20ft out. On defense, I'm not sure JV would provide a ton more than Kanter. Given that the "offensive center" appears to be a thing of the past in the NBA, I think being a more mobile big that knows how to rotate properly can do just fine defensively. Al for instance does just fine man-to-man, but gets destroyed trying to rotate. I think JV is ahead of Kanter in this area right now, but watching Enes these past few games I think he's more than capable of being a very solid "team-defender". Kanter & Favors may be undersized trying to guard some big 5's, but who's a big 5 that you'd be scared of on the offensive end?

Do you think Favors and Kanter would do better controling the paint then Okur and Boozer did? Because it is not big fives who were hurting us most but guards and wings who were penetrating in the paint and were meating zero resistance from our bigs as none of them had any shot blocking or help defense ability. I do believe Favors showed us some promise in that area but Kanter did not and there is no hope he will develop any shot blocking or above the rim defending ability. So far what I have seen in Kanters game he was slow to rotate and help during guard and wing penetration and reminded me Boozer a lot in those situations - I am not talking one on one defense I am speaking about help defense and protecting the rim. What Kanter seems to be capable of learning and maybe implementing in his game is Varejao/J.Collins type defense - move quick in position and take charge. Anyway it is just guessing game and with no season possibly it may take another year when we can check if our theories work in real game situation.

 

[GVC]

So far what I have seen in Kanters game he was slow to rotate and help during guard and wing penetration and reminded me Boozer a lot in those situations

He wasn't slow to rotate at all against Germany and Belgium. I thought he did a very good job, actually. Additionally, he's a hell of a lot better (again, I've only watched two games) in transition (defense) than Boozer or Memo, who were both atrocious.

 

[sepanol]

Favors is true PF, he is way to small to play center, thus paring him with true 7ft center would be better then with the same size Kanter who as you agree to say is better suited to play PF as well. Two PF or PF and true C? On offense I agree that matchups could work but on defense it would be nightmare. Jazz already played two PF's in Okur and Boozer on defense and it was bad experience defensively.

For me a true PF should have more dominant offensive skills than defense, Favors looks like a better C than a PF for me. I dont think it would be a nightmare on defense comparing to Boozer and Okur, because they are two very soft players. But Kanter and Favors are tough as hell. Indeed, i think that JV and Favors pair could be a offensive nightmare.

 

[margodydek]

Do you think Favors and Kanter would do better controling the paint then Okur and Boozer did? Because it is not big fives who were hurting us most but guards and wings who were penetrating in the paint and were meating zero resistance from our bigs as none of them had any shot blocking or help defense ability. I do believe Favors showed us some promise in that area but Kanter did not and there is no hope he will develop any shot blocking or above the rim defending ability. So far what I have seen in Kanters game he was slow to rotate and help during guard and wing penetration and reminded me Boozer a lot in those situations - I am not talking one on one defense I am speaking about help defense and protecting the rim. What Kanter seems to be capable of learning and maybe implementing in his game is Varejao/J.Collins type defense - move quick in position and take charge. Anyway it is just guessing game and with no season possibly it may take another year when we can check if our theories work in real game situation.

Maybe I'm the only here who thought this, and maybe I should take off my Jazz goggles, but besides the first game I thought Kanter looked much quicker than I anticipated. I think Kanter can easily be a better help defender than both Boozer and Okur. I agree with you that he'll never be an "above the rim" defender, but Favors could be. So to answer your question, yes I think Favors and Kanter could do a better job defending the paint than Boozer/Okur.

 

[GVC]

Ya, Favors has the length and athleticism to be a nightmare from the weak side. Kanter should be fairly immovable defending in the post. It's a good combo, based on physical attributes alone. A little more length would be nice, but they're not nearly as small as some seem to think (Favors has a 9'2'' standing reach, Kanter has a 9'1.5'' standing reach...which in tandem is actually pretty damn good).

 

[MVP]

I dont think it would be a nightmare on defense comparing to Boozer and Okur, because they are two very soft players. But Kanter and Favors are tough as hell. Indeed, i think that JV and Favors pair could be a offensive nightmare.

Well, it needs to be seen if they are tough as hell as I certainly did not see much toughness so far. Please explain why would you think JV and Favors would be offensive nightmare?

 

[One Brow]

Howard is an O minded 5

Howard is not taller than Kanter, from what I understand. So, while he'll abuse a rookie Kanter, I don't think he's some nightmare match-up for a veteran Kanter.

 

[jumpin bean]

akmvp is a Kanter hater.he wanted the jazz to pick Valanciunis and was saying Kanter would be a bust.now that the jazz have picked Kanter he has been on other sites ripping Kanter and bragging up JV at every turn.if you want to get in a never ending backandforth just tell him that Kanter is better than JV.

 

[MVP]

akmvp is a Kanter hater.he wanted the jazz to pick Valanciunis and was saying Kanter would be a bust.now that the jazz have picked Kanter he has been on other sites ripping Kanter and bragging up JV at every turn.if you want to get in a never ending backandforth just tell him that Kanter is better than JV.

lol, I do not hate Kanter, where did you get this from? I may not be happy with the pick for the reasons I stated ( I think JV would have been better fit for the Jazz and better player in long run as Kanter's offensive game is basicly same as big AL's but not as polished ) but if I hate somebody it is O'Connor not Kanter. Kanter did not hold the gun near O'Connor's head forcing him to draft him. I would be happy and be first to admit being wrong if Kanter turns into all-star like you have predicted, lol.

 

[jumpin bean]

Watching those extended highlights was very educational.watching hedo's number 1 pick in action ,hisfinger drive the lane right up his nose and straight up his nostril was a strong move anywhere.

 

[davidbenoit]

Watching those extended highlights was very educational.watching hedo's number 1 pick in action ,hisfinger drive the lane right up his nose and straight up his nostril was a strong move anywhere.

couldn't agree more

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Kanter looks like a slightly bigger, slightly more motored, slightly more springy version of Kevin Love here. He should be able to get double-doubles at the next level.