CAKAR
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He was never talking about passing the ball.
Barkley loves that Kanter-Trade...
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He was never talking about passing the ball.
Barkley is 100% correct to love kanter. As a jazz fan I always thought kanter was much better than some on this board. I hate the trade. We got pennies on the dollar for a player I think is soon going to explode. For those fans who say he cant pass I think you will see his assists jump by 1 to 1.5 higher than it was with the jazz simply because he can pass to better jump shooters. I saw kanter pass from the post to jazz players who couldn't throw a ball into the ocean standing on a beach. I for one will miss him and will follow him at OKC. It should be a Sad day for all jazz fans because even those that despised him have to realize we got virtually nothing useful from the trade except maybe more playing time for gobert.
You have to realize the fact is that we got what he was worth. You don't think that DL talked to every interested party and took the best deal out there?
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
So the Nets wanted to flip Perkins to Utah. The proposal outlined probably doesn't even work salary-wise. Jazz only had $4M in cap space, which is the difference between Perkins' salary and Kanter's. Those players would have been minimum salary guys, which is even a worse return than getting draft picks and Pleiss.
Jazz had absolutely ZERO interest in making a deal for low-level players from the Nets. They don't have anyone more valuable than what Utah ended up getting.
But I guess this - if true - proves there were few viable options for Enes on the table. Nets wanted to part with even LESS!
People who don't know Kanter are ignorant to the fact Kanter sucks on defense. I live in Los Angeles and the stupid Lakers fans are finally starting to figure this fact out with Carlos Boozer. After OKC fans see Kanter's matador defense they'll realize why we value Gobert much higher. A casual fan is going to look at Kanter's numbers and think he's awesome because he can score and rebound.
Of course he took the best deal offered. I never said any different. Cleveland did not call offering lebron and Dennis said no I think I will take the crap offered by OKC instead. What the jazz should have done is say if all im offered is crap I wont trade him. You offer a 4 year 40 million dollar contract in the off-season. If kanter gets a better offer you then decide whether to match. It gives you time. You dont take the used toilet paper offered by OKC and try to sell jazz fans that we got a good deal.
jimmy eat jazz
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If Barkley loves the trade for OKC, that almost convinces me it was a bad trade of OKC. Barkley is an affable, likeable character, but he offers absolutely Zero insight on basketball that helps me understand it better. (His rant against analytics shows just how clueless he is.) Neither does Shaq. The ONLY person on the TNT broadcast that ever says anything approaching something insightful is Kenny Smith. I don't put any stock into anything Barkley says. He's there for entertainment purposes only.
Sorry double post that I deleted.
My question is would Kanter have been a valuable piece to the Jazz in three years if they are one of the best teams in the West. Is it about getting to that point quickly or stepping up and playing really well when the time arrives? Kind of harsh, but I'm not sure he has the mental capacity for that.
Well, we will see now. He's on a championship caliber team... lets see if his play improves and if he rises to the challenge.
But if all that was offered on the open market for Enes Kanter was crap, then that was his worth, crap. Again, holding onto him so that maybe, just maybe, you could eek out a little more value is not wise. And you are also ignoring the value of him being gone, now. Holding him longer to get a little better crap hurts the team, and not worth the extra crap. His value could have actually gone down, if he continued to play bad D and fail to pass the ball. In addition, he has been injury prone and you never know when that could crop up again. Move forward, cut your losses.
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I agree somewhat with Oldtimer. We might've been better to stand pat on this, and attend to this in the summer. Kanter actually was showing improvement, I thought, especially around the basket. I don't understand why people didn't notice that. He hasn't been getting blocked so much and his moves have become so much smoother and more fluid. I think what forced this was the emergence of Rudy, which for the Jazz is a good thing. But I don't think they handled the Kanter situation well. They said they weren't going to give him up for nothing, but the end result is that they basically did -- well, not nothing but surely pennies on the dollar.