Best Player Lineups for the Jazz

[Elizah Huge]

Through 11 games

Best 2-player using lineups net rating:

(Min 100 mins played)

Sexton/Olynyk +19.6
Conley/Sexton +19.4
Sexton/Clarkson +13.9

(Min 200 mins played):

Clarkson/Olynyk +13.5
Olynyk/Markkanen +12.2
Clarkson/Markkanen +11.7

Best 3-player lineups using net rating:

(Min 80 mins played):

Sexton/Clarkson/Olynyk +32.3
Conley/Sexton/Markkanen +17.6
Sexton/Olynyk/Markkanen +15.7

(Min 125 mins played):

Clarkson/Olynyk/Markkanen +15.1
Conley/Clarkson/Olynyk +13.2
Clarkson/Vanderbilt/Olynyk +12.2

 

[LogGrad98]

Through 11 games

Best 2-player using lineups net rating:

(Min 100 mins played)

Sexton/Olynyk +19.6
Conley/Sexton +19.4
Sexton/Clarkson +13.9

(Min 200 mins played):

Clarkson/Olynyk +13.5
Olynyk/Markkanen +12.2
Clarkson/Markkanen +11.7

Best 3-player lineups using net rating:

(Min 80 mins played):

Sexton/Clarkson/Olynyk +32.3
Conley/Sexton/Markkanen +17.6
Sexton/Olynyk/Markkanen +15.7

(Min 125 mins played):

Clarkson/Olynyk/Markkanen +15.1
Conley/Clarkson/Olynyk +13.2
Clarkson/Vanderbilt/Olynyk +12.2

Nice.

What are the worst ones?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Nice.

What are the worst ones?

Through 11 games

Worst 2-player using lineups net rating:

(Min 100 mins played)

THT/Beasley -11.4
Clarkson/Beasley -8.1
Beasley/Olynyk -3.9

Worst 3-player lineups using net rating:

(Min 80 mins played):

Conley/Markkanen/Vanderbilt +0.4
Sexton/Beasley/Markkanen +0.9
Conley/Vanderbilt/Olynyk +1.3

 

[HeatCheck]

That closing Conley/Sexton 2 man lineup is dynamic because Mike is obviously our game manager and Sexton can just play free and loose next to him getting to the line, etc.

This is not a knock on Don...He is obviously a very special player as he's proving in Cleveland but last year he didn't let Mike run the team. Quin had the ball in Don's hands to create all the offense. Not that I blame Snyder. If you have a star that's typically who needs to have the ball in crunch time.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Through 11 games

Worst 2-player using lineups net rating:

(Min 100 mins played)

THT/Beasley -11.4
Clarkson/Beasley -8.1
Beasley/Olynyk -3.9

Worst 3-player lineups using net rating:

(Min 80 mins played):

Conley/Markkanen/Vanderbilt +0.4
Sexton/Beasley/Markkanen +0.9
Conley/Vanderbilt/Olynyk +1.3

Beasley has fallen off a cliff after a promising start. It's genuinely hard to watch those lineups where he's playing together with THT.

 

[Eddie Zero]

THT is the youngest player or close to it, on the team. Being 21/22 probably buys him a year or two.

interesting observation. I don't really care if he is 18 he has been in the league long enough to show signs of improvement and he has not. Look at Collin Sexton and how every season he has improved something about his game in a significant way. I know not many do that either, but at least show us you care more about winning than just making your guy miss or putting him on a poster. These guys are all good in some respect or they would not be in the league. Most of them including THT however are in need of massive overhauls to become more than end of rotation liabilities.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Best 4-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net eating:

Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Kessler +69.9
Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler +42.3

Best 3-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Beasley/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/Beasley/THT +63.0

Best 2-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT +63.0
Clarkson/Beasley +48.6
Gay/Kessler +42.3

Pretty safe to say the Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler lineup was huge for us in the game. That lineup was +93.8 in net rating and was the second highest lineup in total minutes played.

I’m super glad to see THT and Beasley turn around some of their horrendous numbers. They have both been playing great as of late.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Best 4-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net eating:

THT/Gay +78.4

This makes the most sense of the stats I've seen in here. The guards don't fit, but these two definitely fit the top net eaters for our team. They both look like they don't skip meals often and definitely eat what they want.

 

[fishonjazz]

Best 4-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net eating:

Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Kessler +69.9
Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler +42.3

Best 3-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Beasley/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/Beasley/THT +63.0

Best 2-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT +63.0
Clarkson/Beasley +48.6
Gay/Kessler +42.3

Pretty safe to say the Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler lineup was huge for us in the game. That lineup was +93.8 in net rating and was the second highest lineup in total minutes played.

I’m super glad to see THT and Beasley turn around some of their horrendous numbers. They have both been playing great as of late.

Man clarkson is everywhere on those lists. Im shocked that neither conley or lauri appear at all on any of them.

 

[HermanG]

Man clarkson is everywhere on those lists. Im shocked that neither conley or lauri appear at all on any of them.

Clarkson stayed on with Murray when our bench had those big runs against theirs. Thats also why Murray is -7 while all other Hawks starters are on +.

 

[HermanG]

To further clarify my previous post: Hawks always put either Trae or Murray to play with the bench in close games (learned this from Hawks boards). I think Hardy had scouted that and wanted Murray to focus on defense over scoring during those minutes, and left JC on.

 

[LogGrad98]

Best 4-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net eating:

Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Kessler +69.9
Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler +42.3

Best 3-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Beasley/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/THT/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Beasley/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/Beasley/THT +63.0

Best 2-player lineups last night (min 9 mins played) in net rating:

Clarkson/Gay +78.4
Clarkson/Kessler +69.9
Clarkson/THT +63.0
Clarkson/Beasley +48.6
Gay/Kessler +42.3

Pretty safe to say the Clarkson/Beasley/THT/Gay/Kessler lineup was huge for us in the game. That lineup was +93.8 in net rating and was the second highest lineup in total minutes played.

I’m super glad to see THT and Beasley turn around some of their horrendous numbers. They have both been playing great as of late.

Agreed, and nice analysis! Really great to see Beasley and THT coming along and becoming strong positives. We are almost a team with no or few weaknesses and no fatal flaws. Crazy that it is just a cobbled together ragtag group of rebels that barely started playing together 2 months ago.

 

[LogGrad98]

Man clarkson is everywhere on those lists. Im shocked that neither conley or lauri appear at all on any of them.

One thing you do not see is who the competition is. Often these single game stats are inflated if that group is playing against a 2nd unit, or if Conley and Lauri were primarily facing the starters it will pull their numbers down a bit. But my bet is they weren't net negatives.

 

[whatthe]

There was 16 scouts at the Atlanta game last night. Good sign. The NBA has no clue how to stop this offense..there is no script yet how to beat this team..lol. Maybe this is the miracle season?

 

[Eddie Zero]

There was 16 scouts at the Atlanta game last night. Good sign. The NBA has no clue how to stop this offense..there is no script yet how to beat this team..lol. Maybe this is the miracle season?

It is not that difficult to see what they are doing. It is however clearly not easy to defend an unselfish roster and that is the difference so far. However I will say I am starting to see a little bit of selfishness on occasion from players who are prone to it pre-Jazz.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And he's part of all the worst 2-, 3-, and 4-man lineups statistically, on defense and offense on the season. Weird right?

And 8 days later now he's one of the better +/- players and apart of a lot of the best lineups.

Funny how this thread was made to **** on THT and now that it doesnt fit the narrative that THT sucks anymore, it's not being updates. Funny.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And 8 days later now he's one of the better +/- players and apart of a lot of the best lineups.

Funny how this thread was made to **** on THT and now that it doesnt fit the narrative that THT sucks anymore, it's not being updates. Funny.

Why are you so concerned with being right or wrong.

I’m happy he’s playing better… ironically for many of us I think sexton and THT might compliment each other on the second unit.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why are you so concerned with being right or wrong.

I’m happy he’s playing better… ironically for many of us I think sexton and THT might compliment each other on the second unit.

Dont think I said anything about me being right or wrong, just that it's funny that people made an entire thread to **** on him, but when it stopped being a useful tool to do so they abandoned it.

 

[LogGrad98]

And 8 days later now he's one of the better +/- players and apart of a lot of the best lineups.

Funny how this thread was made to **** on THT and now that it doesnt fit the narrative that THT sucks anymore, it's not being updates. Funny.

Many of us have been acknowledging his improvement in other threads. Doesn't change the past you know. He still sucked at that time. Now he's gotten better and we're happy about that. Are you the guy that gets pissed at politicians who get new info so they change their position based on that new info, you know like adults do from time to time, but now they're "flip-floppers" so they need to be cancelled?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Many of us have been acknowledging his improvement in other threads. Doesn't change the past you know. He still sucked at that time. Now he's gotten better and we're happy about that. Are you the guy that gets pissed at politicians who get new info so they change their position based on that new info, you know like adults do from time to time, but now they're "flip-floppers" so they need to be cancelled?

Lol dude has become the worst poster on the site. I only update it after wins and the last update had a lot of THT in the + column. He is just a flat out weirdo at this point.