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Big 12 doesn't want BYU

UGLI baby said:
Insanely stacked for next year.
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jazzman12 said:
The pattern of average S.O.S. seems eerily similar to that of when they were still in the MWC. So how exactly are you "better off" than before, with no conference title to play for, extremely limited bowl-tie ins, and the fact that power conferences are basically encouraging their schools not to schedule you?

The more TV money argument doesn't wash because BYU is a private institution funded by the LDS Church. Their resources have been virtually limitless regardless of whatever crappy TV they were tied up in with the Mountain West. I'm sure the ESPN revenue is nice, but it's not as if that money is as crucial to them as Pac12 dollars are for Utah.

Look, you're the BYU fan. I guess if you really feel better off as a fan, it's not really my place to try and tell you otherwise. However, if I was a BYU fan, I'd be petrified that the new college football structure is going to leave them out in the cold. It would especially sting considering that BYU being "difficult to work with" may have killed their last real chance to get into a power conference.
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Oh, I do worry about BYU being left in the cold. ("Petrified" is much too strong a word, though.) But how would that be different if BYU were still in the Mountain West? It wouldn't. If anything it would be worse. As things stands, if BYU can get a power conference that wants them, they would have no conference contract they'd need to get out of. And this way BYU can play a harder schedule than if they were in the current Mountain West, they get noticed more because they are on ESPN, they get more money, they have programming they can put on BYU TV, they can schedule games around the country, etc., etc.

Look, it seems like you feel I'm saying BYU is better off being independent than they would be if they were in the Pac 12. I'm not. I'm saying that they're better off independent than in the crappy Mountain West.
 
LazyD said:
I dunno much 'bout the Pac-12. Just figured UCLA and Oregon would probably be better or smth. Utah should be pretty salty, but if they're the 2nd best team in Pac 12 that's kinda lame. Is it supposed to be a down year for the conference?
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Jordan Adams and Kyle Anderson going pro for UCLA, Oregon's players have been busy raping girls.

All jokes aside, you understand Utah has a very strong basketball history, correct? We had some down down down down years, but we are back now. We have one of the best Head Coaches in the Pac 12, probably the nicest stadium in the Pac 12, and the basketball facilities we are breaking ground on now will be the nicest in the Pac 12 when completed.

Saying all of that to say that I expect Utah to compete for Pac 12 titles year in and year out starting next year. We arent an underdog in Pac 12 basketball (we are, and probably always will be in football), we are probably the strongest program after AZ, UCLA, and I guess you have to count Oregon because of all of their money.

If you said any of this about Iowa St I just wouldnt care, but I think you are more of a pure college bball fan than I am, so if you care at all you should read up on who we have returning and the recruits we have coming in.

Arizona will be head, shoulders, chest, and probably torso over everyone in the Pac next year (redonk incoming class), but talent wise I think Utah is #2.
 
UGLI baby said:
Jordan Adams and Kyle Anderson going pro for UCLA, Oregon's players have been busy raping girls.

All jokes aside, you understand Utah has a very strong basketball history, correct? We had some down down down down years, but we are back now. We have one of the best Head Coaches in the Pac 12, probably the nicest stadium in the Pac 12, and the basketball facilities we are breaking ground on now will be the nicest in the Pac 12 when completed.

Saying all of that to say that I expect Utah to compete for Pac 12 titles year in and year out starting next year. We arent an underdog in Pac 12 basketball (we are, and probably always will be in football), we are probably the strongest program after AZ, UCLA, and I guess you have to count Oregon because of all of their money.

If you said any of this about Iowa St I just wouldnt care, but I think you are more of a pure college bball fan than I am, so if you care at all you should read up on who we have returning and the recruits we have coming in.

Arizona will be head, shoulders, chest, and probably torso over everyone in the Pac next year (redonk incoming class), but talent wise I think Utah is #2.
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I couldn't tell you a single thing about Utah basketball. Not one player, not one coach, not one single thing. I would love to bet you $25.00 that Utah doesn't come in 2nd in the SUCK12 this next year. In fact, I'll even give you 3rd. Utah will place no higher than 4th, GuaranSheed.

Interested?
 
E.J. Wells said:
I couldn't tell you a single thing about Utah basketball. Not one player, not one coach, not one single thing. I would love to bet you $25.00 that Utah doesn't come in 2nd in the SUCK12 this next year. In fact, I'll even give you 3rd. Utah will place no higher than 4th, GuaranSheed.

Interested?
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lol would you gamble at a Casino that you knew would try and not pay you when you won?
 
E.J. Wells said:
I couldn't tell you a single thing about Utah basketball. Not one player, not one coach, not one single thing. I would love to bet you $25.00 that Utah doesn't come in 2nd in the SUCK12 this next year. In fact, I'll even give you 3rd. Utah will place no higher than 4th, GuaranSheed.

Interested?
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I'll take that bet.
 
UGLI baby said:
lol would you gamble at a Casino that you knew would try and not pay you when you won?
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Says the guy who still owes me $25.00. Let it be known, Salty... er, UGLI chose not to back up his absurd predictions and pseudo-fandom when given the chance -- just like I knew he wouldn't.
 
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