What's new
By:

Bin Laden is dead

Is anyone else upset that our local crowd of yahoos in front of the White House couldn't come up with a better chant than "na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye"?

It was that and the soccer "Ole" chant. Outside of good ol' dependable "U! S! A!" we really had nothing. If we insist on gathering in front of the White House we need better chants for situations like this.
 
The Thriller said:
It's sad how some of you hate America.

No matter what America does, it's wrong.

Yes, death is usually kinda a sad thing. But the death of the #1 terrorist so that billions can be safe is well worth it.

I dare some of you to tell victims of 9/11 and of those who are serving in our armed forces that they shouldn't celebrate. That they should feel bad for Osama Bin laden.

I dare you to do it Trout. Lets see if you have the courage to backup your stuff.
Click to expand...
Nobody is suggesting we should "feel bad" for Osama or pity him. But adversely, we should not be celebrating and cheering death/torture AT ALL, no matter who it is. To do so, you are no different than the 1700's masses that cheered at a lynching, and why not? It's a criminal dying, right? Hasn't that image ever struck you as odd?

Once again, I'm solemn that we have war going on, that many were killed by Osama, and that we had to kill Osama and others to prevent more deaths. It's all horrible, horrible stuff, and I feel no elation over it whatsoever.
 
I haven't seen the "celebrations", but it seems possible to me that they might not be simply celebrating the fact that a guy is dead; but also that the world is, in theory, now a safer place.

Or is it just a bunch of idjuts out screaming "take that, Osama! Where's yer virgins now?"

It's like when Aint was banned. I held a little party in my basement, NOT because I was glad that the guy got what was coming to him, but because my head would now hurt less when I read the board.

Not that I'm comparing Aint to Osama. But not that I'm not.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Is anyone else upset that our local crowd of yahoos in front of the White House couldn't come up with a better chant than "na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye"?

It was that and the soccer "Ole" chant. Outside of good ol' dependable "U! S! A!" we really had nothing. If we insist on gathering in front of the White House we need better chants for situations like this.
Click to expand...

With originality like that, we should recruit these people to come cheer in the Jazz Rowdies section next year.
 
I watched the news coverage until well past three in the morning. Watching the soldiers holding American flags and cheering from light posts in NYC, watching the Firemen of the NYFD gather at ground zero to celebrate and remember their fallen comrades, watching throngs of people waving American flags in front of the White House, and listening to a couple of people interviewed who were in the twin towers and were able to escape on 9/11. I felt a great sense of pride of what the US military was able to accomplish. I also don't feel bad for being happy that a murderous coward is dead.

Watching the throngs of people celebrating last night I was reminded of news coverage of people dancing and celebrating in the Middle East on 9/11. The difference is that they were celebrating the murder of 3,000+ innocent men, women, and children in an un-provoked attack. Americans, on the other hand, were celebrating the death of someone who encouraged the murder of as many innocent people as possible. Osama was the figurehead of an organization that funded, planned, and assisted in carrying out attacks that brought a nation to its knees. Given those circumstances, New Yorkers, Washingtonians, survivors of Flight 93, and those that have lost loved ones due to the War on Terror have every right to celebrate without having to worry about who it "offends".

“Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly” - Teddy Roosevelt
 
A few questions and if these have already been addressed I apologize.

1) How did they do the DNA test on him? They did it once aboard the ship/boat? I can't imagine the SEALS were carrying them around.

2) How did they confirm it was him so quickly? I thought it generally takes a long time to get DNA results back, no matter who's involved.

3) What the heck did they have to test it against? I want to say he had close family who lived in Boston, MA but I'm not sure.

Any answers to these questions are much appreciated.
 
Boondocksaint27 said:
I watched the news coverage until well past three in the morning. Watching the soldiers holding American flags and cheering from light posts in NYC, watching the Firemen of the NYFD gather at ground zero to celebrate and remember their fallen comrades, watching throngs of people waving American flags in front of the White House, and listening to a couple of people interviewed who were in the twin towers and were able to escape on 9/11. I felt a great sense of pride of what the US military was able to accomplish. I also don't feel bad for being happy that a murderous coward is dead.

Watching the throngs of people celebrating last night I was reminded of news coverage of people dancing and celebrating in the Middle East on 9/11. The difference is that they were celebrating the murder of 3,000+ innocent men, women, and children in an un-provoked attack. Americans, on the other hand, were celebrating the death of someone who encouraged the murder of as many innocent people as possible. Osama was the figurehead of an organization that funded, planned, and assisted in carrying out attacks that brought a nation to its knees. Given those circumstances, New Yorkers, Washingtonians, survivors of Flight 93, and those that have lost loved ones due to the War on Terror have every right to celebrate without having to worry about who it "offends".

“Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly” - Teddy Roosevelt
Click to expand...

That's a good post, and I can see exactly where you're coming from. We just see it differently, that's all. At least you took the time to not look like a complete *****ird while doing it.
 
One Brow said:
I agree with TroutBum here. I'm relieved, but there is nothing to celebrate about it.
Click to expand...

I agree with Trout and One Brow here. I'm not sure it's simply because another human being is dead as much as it is that our celebrations mimic exactly what many Muslims (I don't know who; certain sects I guess) did in the Mid-East and elsewhere immediately following the 9/11 attacks. The reasons are different sure but it's the same sad act. Taking to the streets, cheering, chanting, mindless participation. Really? We're not better than that? We don't know to toss the football to the ref after scoring a touchdown like we've done it before? I find it sort of sickening. War, other than the end of one, is nothing to revel in. I'm sorry.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
A few questions and if these have already been addressed I apologize.

1) How did they do the DNA test on him? They did it once aboard the ship/boat? I can't imagine the SEALS were carrying them around.

2) How did they confirm it was him so quickly? I thought it generally takes a long time to get DNA results back, no matter who's involved.

3) What the heck did they have to test it against? I want to say he had close family who lived in Boston, MA but I'm not sure.

Any answers to these questions are much appreciated.
Click to expand...

1) No answer for this one, but I have to imagine that if they've been planning this attack out for the last week and got the tip on his location in August, that they would have medical examiners on scene not long after to legitimize him. They also supposedly had several facial recognition devices confirm it was him in the weeks before...supposedly.

2) DNA tests can be confirmed in minutes to hours if the resources are available right away. The reason you usually hear about DNA test results taking so long is because they more often than not use mail in services, in which case it takes anywhere from days to weeks depending on the location of the labs. I've had family in Las Vegas that have had DNA tests run and had the results within a day. If they already had DNA samples from him, which they allegedly did, it should have been a breeze.

3) This also factors in to the above, but our government has supposedly had DNA samples for the last decade that have been provided by the cooperative family members that we escorted out of Afghanistan in 2001 after the attacks.

Clearly some of this is subject to speculation, just what I've gathered.

3)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top