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Bismack Biyombo - Full Scouting Report

What kind of player do you expect him to be? I've heard some compare him to Ben Wallace or Ibaka. To me, if he could have just a Joel Anthony like impact that would be very optimistic considering how short and raw he is....

You realize of course that his standing reach is same of Greg Oden. Is Greg Oden an undersized center? His standing reach is one inch shorter than Shaq's?
 
You realize of course that his standing reach is same of Greg Oden. Is Greg Oden an undersized center? His standing reach is one inch shorter than Shaq's?

Cool story.

Also been told how great of a reach Boozer and Millsap have. That doesn't take away that they're still short and are very undersized on the Basketball court.

Having a good reach is one thing. But it doesn't make up for the inches lost in height. The two work together.
 
Boozer's standing reach is 9'1". Millsap's is 8'9". Notice the difference? Nice job making the point about how much more important standing reach/wingspan is than the elevation of the top of a player's head.
 
Inches in height does affect ones offensive ability. I think that is alwaus overlooked when looking at reach. That said i look at bb as a 20 minute a game defensive nightmare. Thats what we need.
 
Inches in height does affect ones offensive ability. I think that is alwaus overlooked when looking at reach. That said i look at bb as a 20 minute a game defensive nightmare. Thats what we need.

That fact is anything but overlooked. No other player stat gets nearly as much attention as height.
 
For me, getting Bismak is priority one in this draft. I'd like to see the Jazz draft Kanter in the three spot and then trade with someone in the 5 to 9 range to pick up Biyombo and an asset. If they do this I'm even on board if they take Jimmer at 12. In fact, I'll enjoy watching opposing guards run past Ferdetter only to come face to palm with Smack.

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Boozer's standing reach is 9'1". Millsap's is 8'9". Notice the difference? Nice job making the point about how much more important standing reach/wingspan is than the elevation of the top of a player's head.

I do notice the difference. And both have about the same height and get stuffed a lot offensively and struggle defensively.

Thanks for making my case for me!

One's height or standing reach cannot be used exclusively, but mutually. Ideally you want someone with good size and reach (like Kanter). IMO, Kanter is the superior prospect both from a physical and a mental perspective (Kanter's skill level right now is probably far greater than Biyombo will have in his entire career).

If you feel that Biyombo's reach makes up for his height, then fine. If you feel like Biyombo can play center for the Utah Jazz and are not at least concerned with his lack of height (and basketball skills), then I feel we're just going to agree to disagree.

I'm not anti-Biyombo. I just find some things concerning to me....

Think the Jazz would ever draft both Kanter at the 3 and Biyombo at the 12? Or will they go with a guard at one of those?

In other words, if the Jazz draft Kanter @ the 3, must they go for a guard at the 12? What happens if the best prospects at #12 are guys like Biyombo or Mont?
 
What kind of player do you expect him to be? I've heard some compare him to Ben Wallace or Ibaka. To me, if he could have just a Joel Anthony like impact that would be very optimistic considering how short and raw he is....

I don't get the Wallace love. Wallace was good for a couple of years during Detroit's playoff run. He's done nothing before or since. In his whole career, he's had how many truly productive seasons? Once outside of Detroit's system, his offensive deficiencies have been glaring and he's been a non-factor everywhere else.

I repeat what I've said before, Biyombo is intriguing as a late lottery pick but too big a risk for anything beyond that. He's a project and has a very high likelihood of being a bust also. He has no offensive game and is as raw as they come. I'm not ready to drink the koolaid on this guy and, frankly, I hope the Jazz front office isn't either. I hate to be the wet blanket here, but the gushing over this guy is really over the top.
 
I don't get the Wallace love. Wallace was good for a couple of years during Detroit's playoff run. He's done nothing before or since. In his whole career, he's had how many truly productive seasons? Once outside of Detroit's system, his offensive deficiencies have been glaring and he's been a non-factor everywhere else.

I repeat what I've said before, Biyombo is intriguing as a late lottery pick but too big a risk for anything beyond that. He's a project and has a very high likelihood of being a bust also. He has no offensive game and is as raw as they come. I'm not ready to drink the koolaid on this guy and, frankly, I hope the Jazz front office isn't either. I hate to be the wet blanket here, but the gushing over this guy is really over the top.

Maybe, but Wallace was a huge key when he was good. I think he has battled various injuries since his golden days too.
 
I don't get the Wallace love. Wallace was good for a couple of years during Detroit's playoff run. He's done nothing before or since. In his whole career, he's had how many truly productive seasons? Once outside of Detroit's system, his offensive deficiencies have been glaring and he's been a non-factor everywhere else.

I repeat what I've said before, Biyombo is intriguing as a late lottery pick but too big a risk for anything beyond that. He's a project and has a very high likelihood of being a bust also. He has no offensive game and is as raw as they come. I'm not ready to drink the koolaid on this guy and, frankly, I hope the Jazz front office isn't either. I hate to be the wet blanket here, but the gushing over this guy is really over the top.

You don't get the love for a guy who was the Defensive Player of the Year 4 times and All NBA Defense 6 times?
 
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