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Black Kid Shot in Gated Neighboorhood

Read carefully, the guy on the top was beating up on on the guy on the bottom, then the guy on the top was lying dead on the grass. Sounds like self defense to me. I know, I know, liberals call it racism. The only way they'd be satisfied is if the black kid beat the white guy's ***.

From the article:

"The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!' and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
"And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."

I have to admit that this paints a vastly different story than what was originally posted.
 
Not that vastly different. It's the 25 year old who decided to follow the 17 year old for no reason. Perhaps they got into a fight. Doesn't justify the shooting unless the 17 year old was actively seeking him out to beat him up, which seems unlikely.
 
Not that vastly different.

Yes it is. There was no mention of the black kid beating on the white dude in the original post. Just a white guy stalking a poor, innocent black kid and then shooting him for no reason.

It's the 25 year old who decided to follow the 17 year old for no reason. Perhaps they got into a fight. Doesn't justify the shooting unless the 17 year old was actively seeking him out to beat him up, which seems unlikely.

So you're saying that it's OK to jump on somebody and start to beat them if they are following you but it's not OK to shoot the person beating you because you were following them in the first place?
 
it's not OK to shoot the person beating you because you were following them in the first place?

Yes.

How weak does a grown *** man, in his prime physical years, need to be to get beat up by a child? The gun probably empowered the ***** white man enough to follow and confront the black child. He had premeditated his intentions of shooting the child if things went south.
 
Yes.

How weak does a grown *** man, in his prime physical years, need to be to get beat up by a child? The gun probably empowered the ***** white man enough to follow and confront the black child. He had premeditated his intentions of shooting the child if things went south.
Not to mention he was tailing the kid in a car and decided to get out and confront him. The kid would have continued on his way home with his skittles and iced tea if not for this ****ing joke of a human being feeling empowered by his pistol.
 
You assume that everyone is built and matures the same. And 17 is hardly a child.

Scat, my point is this guy very likely went in empowered by the pistol he was packing. If he couldn't easily handle the kid then he should not have confronted him or gotten out of the car in the first place. This isn't the wild, wild west where absence of police spurs the shoot now ask later mentality.
 
Scat, my point is this guy very likely went in empowered by the pistol he was packing. If he couldn't easily handle the kid then he should not have confronted him or gotten out of the car in the first place. This isn't the wild, wild west where absence of police spurs the shoot now ask later mentality.
But he was suspended from school!
 
It looks like this gun owner decided to pick a fight and it went badly for him so he shot this kid. The kid was not in the middle of commiting a crime, he was walking down the street. I hope the gun owner faces jail time.
 
I can just as easily see the 25 year old pulling up to a stranger in a gated community asking him what he was doing there. The 17 year old (who may have looked considerably older) tells him to F-off. The 25 year old now has a high concern that the 17 year old should not be there and is up to no good and follows him. This agitates the 17 year old even more who gets confrontational and ends up on top of the 25 year old punching him in the face. The 25 year old reacts by defending himself and shoots the 17 year still thinking he's an unwanted stranger where he doesn't belong.

It cracks me up how everyone goes right to the thought that the shooter was a wild west cowboy or racist simply because he shot someone while defending himself. Nowhere has there been any mention of the 17 year old's actions other than he was just coming home from the store with a bag skittles minding his own business. I have a sneaky suspicion that the 17 year old contributed considerably to own demise through his own actions or attitude. The fact that there hasn't been an arrest tends to support me.
 
I can just as easily see the 25 year old pulling up to a stranger in a gated community asking him what he was doing there. The 17 year old (who may have looked considerably older) tells him to F-off. The 25 year old now has a high concern that the 17 year old should not be there and is up to no good and follows him. This agitates the 17 year old even more who gets confrontational and ends up on top of the 25 year old punching him in the face. The 25 year old reacts by defending himself and shoots the 17 year still thinking he's an unwanted stranger where he doesn't belong.

It cracks me up how everyone goes right to the thought that the shooter was a wild west cowboy or racist simply because he shot someone while defending himself. Nowhere has there been any mention of the 17 year old's actions other than he was just coming home from the store with a bag skittles minding his own business. I have a sneaky suspicion that the 17 year old contributed considerably to own demise through his own actions or attitude. The fact that there hasn't been an arrest tends to support me.

Purly conjecture at this point. Defense if the kid attacked him. Murder if he attacked the kid. If he was worried he should have called the local athorities instead of handling it himslef. Pull back, follow form a distancce and make a call. Easy
 
Purly conjecture at this point. Defense if the kid attacked him. Murder if he attacked the kid. If he was worried he should have called the local athorities instead of handling it himslef. Pull back, follow form a distancce and make a call. Easy

Again, the fact that there hasn't been an arrest or charges filed is crucial to what the cops know vs our conjecture here.
 
I can just as easily see the 25 year old pulling up to a stranger in a gated community asking him what he was doing there. The 17 year old (who may have looked considerably older) tells him to F-off. The 25 year old now has a high concern that the 17 year old should not be there and is up to no good and follows him. This agitates the 17 year old even more who gets confrontational and ends up on top of the 25 year old punching him in the face. The 25 year old reacts by defending himself and shoots the 17 year still thinking he's an unwanted stranger where he doesn't belong.

It cracks me up how everyone goes right to the thought that the shooter was a wild west cowboy or racist simply because he shot someone while defending himself. Nowhere has there been any mention of the 17 year old's actions other than he was just coming home from the store with a bag skittles minding his own business. I have a sneaky suspicion that the 17 year old contributed considerably to own demise through his own actions or attitude. The fact that there hasn't been an arrest tends to support me.

LOL

Racism and harassment FTW bro!!!!1!

Good luck with your kkk white hood defense.
 
So you have a dead body, a smoking gun, and still no arrest?

Even if this was just a racially motived crime, remember this boys and girls...

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So despite there being five times more whites in the USA, blacks still commit more crimes against whites than the reverse. The local news is just trying to make racial contraversy.

Some of you probably don't know this, but the media has no legal obligation to report the truth. However, when they interview a witness like this guy, it could be pretty damaging:

https://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/ne...led-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1o8VK3pdJ

Read carefully, the guy on the top was beating up on on the guy on the bottom, then the guy on the top was lying dead on the grass. Sounds like self defense to me. I know, I know, liberals call it racism. The only way they'd be satisfied is if the black kid beat the white guy's ***.

I would assume that the stats are of people convicted.... but it does not include people who get away with a crime, nor does it take into account that some people are wrongly convicted.
 
franklin said:
LOL

Racism and harassment FTW bro!!!!1!

Good luck with your kkk white hood defense.

Easy. But Fat Trainer wants you to think this kid was attacking senior citizens and their infant grand children from the walk in basement entrance instead of walking down a ****ing public/private sidewalk.

You're a dumbass. I never said anything of the sort. I was simply pointing out that a punk with a bad attitude could end up in this situation. Do you really think that had the 17 year old simply answered, "My name is ______ and I'm visiting my father at such and such address that it would have escalated into a beating culminating with a shooting?

Again, why no arrest, dumbass?
 
You're a dumbass. I never said anything of the sort. I was simply pointing out that a punk with a bad attitude could end up in this situation. Do you really think that had the 17 year old simply answered, "My name is ______ and I'm visiting my father at such and such address that it would have escalated into a beating culminating with a shooting?

Again, why no arrest, dumbass?

Wait- do you think franklin is a dumbass?

:)
 
In all seriousness, I will try to reserve judgement until more information is shed. Currently, I am siding with the kid seeing as there was ZERO reason as to why he was followed (other than his skin colour, of course). That part irks me quite a bit. The rest is seriously ambiguous as of this point.
 
In all seriousness, I will try to reserve judgement until more information is shed. Currently, I am siding with the kid seeing as there was ZERO reason as to why he was followed (other than his skin colour, of course). That part irks me quite a bit. The rest is seriously ambiguous as of this point.

How about the fact that the guy on neighborhood watch simply didn't recognize this kid where everybody is probably known whether they are white, black or green? You see a stranger in an exclusive, gated community and it raises suspicion. That's what a neighborhood watch is for.
 
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