Boozer who?

[NAOS]

Welp, that about does it. This is, without a doubt, THEE most tired schtick on this board.......36 posts in. It's so painfully obvious you practice this in the mirror.

But his ideas are so sexy to himself.

 

[JAZZFAN_2814]

Welp, that about does it. This is, without a doubt, THEE most tired schtick on this board.......36 posts in. It's so painfully obvious you practice this in the mirror.

Well, looking at your name, quote and avatar, I feel quite safe in assuming that you don't practice your online schtick in the mirror: I give odds that Don Swayze is a bridge too far for you.

 

[JAZZFAN_2814]

I don't claim to be a genius (or at all intelligent, really),

Well, the preface works at least.

1. The Jazz need a PF who is elite in the high or low post (drawing attention, hitting J's or playing with back to basket, making good reads and passes, etc.) to have any hope.

The funny thing is, this is the standard for a Jerry Sloan team.

At least a decently competitive one (playoff-bound).

If you can't read that in the offense then, yes, you're an idiot.

2. Defense (and everything else not directly related to point 1 above) doesn't matter.

Oh, because an occasional block from Kirilenko doesn't convince me that he's worth 17 million?

3. AK sucks.

AKA reality. Especially at...17 million.

4. Everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot, and I will misrepresent/dismiss their arguments and insult them until they give up/concede.

The charming thing is how easily inverted all this is. Don't think too hard about it, just take it the same way as you provided it.

Yet, please, elucidate once again as to how Kirilenko was more important than Boozer many seasons. I'm sure he was last year as well, including or especially in the playoffs.

 

[GVC]

Yet, please, elucidate once again as to how Kirilenko was more important than Boozer many seasons. I'm sure he was last year as well, including or especially in the playoffs.

Points 3 and 4 at work.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

This is the Paul Millsap appreciation thread. Through the first 3 games his stats are 21-12-3.


He never whines, never brags, never dresses downs rookies on the court. What he does is that he always comes to play and gives 100% on the court, even when no one else does.


I am so glad that we have him on the team and that a certain other player has taken his talents to Chicago.

so take a shot at dwill cuz dwill yells at da rookie. That rookie sucks and dwill knows it. Kid blew wide open layup last night off a nice dwill dish but ya millsap a b east so why does this surprise anyone that he would put up these type of numbers

 

[One Brow]

2007.

How singularly unimpressive a choice. Boozer appeared in all of 4 more games that year than Kirilenko. You will be hard-pressed to make a good case for Boozer being one of the leaders of the team over Kirilenko, despite the difficulties in communication.

However, to answer your question, in 2007-2008 (just one year later) Kirilenko was our second-best player, and reliably healthy both physically and mentally.

 

[Hopper]

Millsap is the type of player a championship team has to have. The things he brings to the table are rare. You can find plenty of players like Boozer- Good offensive game, not enough toughness or heart to commit himself on the defensive end, etc. We were NEVER going to win a title running our offense through Boozer.

Astute post, Nut. Neither Boozer nor Millsap looked like world-beaters against the Lakers. Still one very noticable difference. One quit, one didn't. One looked like a scared little schoolgirl, and one looked like a full-growwed man.

 

[LunaticWolf]

It is a shame that 2814 feels the elitist need to put so many personal insults in his posts, as he has some really good points.

 

[Bodhi]

, as he has some really good points.

Oh, I agree with the vast majority of what he says. How he says it? Well, he's just daddies special widdle guy is what he is!! Playin' dress up.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Millsap doesn't need to be the "anchor" in this offense to make him successful. Having the low post presence of Big Al is a dynamic at the PF/C positions that I don't think Utah has ever had. In that way, it's a little bit of uncharted territory, so any Jazz fan saying Sap can or can't do this or that really doesn't know. If last night was any indication, this combo down low could be downright devestating.

I for one, am not going to underestimate Sap. All the guy has done is produce when given the chance and it seems like he's still trending upwards. Every time we think we know Millsap's ceiling, he seems to smash right through it.

And for those comparing him to Boozer? Once is currently playing and producing for his team, and the other is in street clothes (yet again). Hard to be a factor when you miss over 30% of your games.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can anyone here name 10 PF or C who have low-post game? Can anyone name 5 PF or C who have dominant low-post games? I doubt yall can. It just the facts that no one plays in the low post anymore. We are lucky to have one of them in Al Jefferson, and we are lucky to have a good face-up 4 in Millsap.

 

[franklin]

Can anyone here name 10 PF or C who have...

Could be said about any position.

low-post game? Can anyone name 5 PF or C who have dominant low-post games? I doubt yall can. It just the facts that no one plays in the low post anymore. We are lucky to have one of them in Al Jefferson, and we are lucky to have a good face-up 4 in Millsap.

The NBA moved away from the low-post game years ago. Fast is the preference these days. Also, zone was brought back. To give you an example, Amare isn't used as he would have been in the 1980's or 1990's.

In no order:
Dwight
Amare
Boozer
AJ
Duncan
Gasol
Bynum
Bosh
Ming

Scola could be really good. Mark Gasol, Oden, Griffin? Bogut--honorable mention.

Most of the really dominant low post players are over the hill right now (Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Ming, even Brad Miller and Jermain O'Neal).