Is Liz Cheney now a liberal leftist?
View: https://twitter.com/liz_cheney/status/1526159124840558592?s=21&t=gp4BLF8z__3kmGCvGChW8g
That's hilarious.
Is Liz Cheney now a liberal leftist?
View: https://twitter.com/liz_cheney/status/1526159124840558592?s=21&t=gp4BLF8z__3kmGCvGChW8g
I think the modern-day English Tories are, by American standards, a hard left party. The Nazis were about state ownership of the means of production, which is pretty much off the American political spectrum.
Putting the welfare of the state above the welfare of people is not a left-wing ideology.
Only if you warp what Sanders aims for beyond all recognition.
Not just hilarious, but straight up Hillaryous.That's hilarious.
Fox News is not where crackpots go to get their ideas.True. The issue here is white supremacists on Fox News radicalizing viewers to act out their worst fantasies.
I’m fine with overhauling gun reform throughout the nation (I’m sure republicans and their Supreme Court will support that…). Make handguns much harder to get, increase wait times, ban ARs, buy guns back, invest in a PR campaign to break our sick gun culture fetish, etc. whatever it takes. I just want to live in a normal industrialized country where gun violence in malls, schools, theaters, churches, grocery stores, music concerts, etc aren’t a regular occurrence.
I think modern American politics, both Dem and Republican, are historically "Tory" parties. The Republicans were taken over in the 1890s by British progressives like Lord Cecil Rhodes, the League of Nations club, warmongers who made America an Imperialist power in Cuba and the Philippines. The Robber Barons, all that. The democrats became a Tory holding when Winthrop and Jay Rockefeller installed Bill Clinton as Pres. To hell with the Unions in America, they're all wholly owned subsidiaries of Management.First point, I think the modern day English Torries are more like Nixon's Republicans, evil ****ers without any moral compass or intellectual integrity. The Nazis were not actually completely about state ownership they formed what is called a bund, a version of it is still used in Germany today, in effect industry would be run via a partnership between business and the state. (In modern Germany unions have a seat at this table too.)
The second point, it can end up and in most communist states almost always does end being that the state is put before the people. A lot of this can be traced back to the origins of Leninism but i can go on forever about this. In Democratic Socialist societies, they have almost all been democratic and stable, I can't think of an elected democratic socialist party that has attempted to install a dictatorship, I can think of a couple that have been overthrown by the US government in order to install a dictatorship tho.
www.algora.com
I agree, but we were discussing socialism, not communism.The second point, it can end up and in most communist states almost always does end being that the state is put before the people.
Then, show us. An actual sign at an alt-right rally supporting Sanders.Very true, but the opposite is not.
Complete and utter horse-hockey, based on deliberate lies of two groups using the same word for different ideas.As for the details of Bernie's preferred flavor of socialism, there are likely differences but among the major political candidates in the last election, he was closer to what they wanted to see than anyone else was.
Going back, Kessler himself said this changed in 2013, about four years before Charlottesville.Jason Kessler, a long time and very active democrat.
It seems like you’re trying to create a type of cognitive dissonance, and not really for honest reasons. The “America is not a democracy” narrative was not about the fact we are a republic, but to try to take away any reason people might have for being concerned over 1/6, or to somehow make my right to vote, including for president, despite your elector technicalities, seem like, well, that’s not what I think it is, I’ve been living in a delusion where elections and my role as a citizen in our elections are concerned. But I know when I’m taking part in what I know as democracy in America. You’re just trying to make people’s heads spin. I know we’re a republic, and I know when I take part in a democratic process. And I don’t believe you can change that fact.people in this forum are still arguing against my insistence of the United States being a republic rather than a democracy so I know there is little point into getting in to it but yes the Nazis were actual socialists even if they were not Marxist socialists. Their modern supporters are a good fit with Bernie Sanders.
Well, as Mick Jagger once intoned: “You can’t always get what you want….but if you try sometime, you’ll find you get what you need”.As for the group in the Vice piece you linked to earlier, they grumbled on camera about Trump giving his daughter to a Jew but they marched in support of him anyway.
LOL. Very aggressively twisting the fabric of space time so that he can still advocate for all the same stuff without having to be on the same team with racist murderers.Oh weird. Al lying again. Who could have ever foreseen that? Some people just aren’t very good people.
Exactly.LOL. Very aggressively twisting the fabric of space time so that he can still advocate for all the same stuff without having to be on the same team with racist murderers.
![]()