Bully slapdown
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CONAN
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Bullies were a Conan-magnet back in the day. Still are to some extent. Need to be less confrontational.
In this world you need to be able to take a little **** here and there. Have some thick skin. Being able to laugh at yourself and show some brevity goes a long way toward difusing situations. But there does come a point where enough is enough and you have to lay it down.
In this world you need to be able to take a little **** here and there. Have some thick skin. Being able to laugh at yourself and show some brevity goes a long way toward difusing situations. But there does come a point where enough is enough and you have to lay it down.
enchilada_style
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This is going nowhere.
DutchJazzer
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Just admit you where wrong in that particaular post and the victim was NO UNDERDog he just chose not to fight. until that moment of course
I know this is a common assumption, but it is also almost always false. The result is generally to really tick the bullies off. They will be even more likely to bully, just not when the teacher or administration are around. You have to stand up for yourself and have good friends or it will continue for years.
DutchJazzer
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even in real life going to the cops doesnt always help. but yeah again people assume its a perfect world. in a perfect world going to a teacher will make it stop.
but perfection does not exist.
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I showed this to my wife and kids last night and my wife had a take I didn't think about. First it took her 3 viewings to figure out who the bully was. In her mind, the stereotype of the bully being the big fat kid and the victim being a little scrawny kid held sway. We read the article and another that talked about the incident then she could see that it was the smaller kid perpetrating the bullying. I think this also fits other stereotypes such as only men can perpetrate sexual harrassment, etc.
Now her take was this: what if the bigger kid had killed the littler kid? In my wifes eyes the fact that the retaliation by the bigger kid had so much greater potential for permanent harm put him at fault. She accepts he had to stand up for himself, and supports that, but felt the violence used was excessive. She has a point. If it had been the littler kids head that hit that wood planter box instead of his leg he could have died or been disabled.
How, if at all, does that change your view of the whole thing?
Also how about the notion that only bigger people can bully smaller people and not vice versa?
Now her take was this: what if the bigger kid had killed the littler kid? In my wifes eyes the fact that the retaliation by the bigger kid had so much greater potential for permanent harm put him at fault. She accepts he had to stand up for himself, and supports that, but felt the violence used was excessive. She has a point. If it had been the littler kids head that hit that wood planter box instead of his leg he could have died or been disabled.
How, if at all, does that change your view of the whole thing?
Also how about the notion that only bigger people can bully smaller people and not vice versa?
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That does not change my opinion. The little kid needed to be suspended. Casey maybe needed to be talked to but not suspended. The little punk and everyone else in this entitlement society needs to learn that there are consequences for their actions.
Who gives a damn if he broke scrawny's neck? It would have been completely on accident.
He's a kid and not a trained cage fighter accustomed to controlling hormonal overload. People lose their cool when the hypothalamus kicks in. Call it genetic wisdom. Some have a higher gear and faster spinning engine than others. That's why you don't sucker punch people in the nose. You never know if he's going grizzly on your *** or not. It's my bet the big fella was responding through chemical and reactionary means only, and wasn't exactly in a position to ponder his next chess move. He went full cortisol and adrenaline autopilot, and came close to body bagging the little **** head.
Judging his body language, he looks like he has social issues, which means he probably has a pretty hard time quickly adapting and managing on-the-spot.
Don't climb a tree in a thundershower, don't feed the bears, and don't **** with big *** dudes even if they are shy and used to taking ****.
gregbroncs
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Does not change my opinion either. If he was not being bullied and attacked his response would have been unnecessary. Therefore the consequences to me all fall on the instigator of the situation. If you have somebody pull a gun on you and you take it away and kill them is it your fault? Same situation to me here, if your attacked and accidentally kill your attacker while defending yourself are you at fault? To me the answer to both questions is no.
Suspension was not enough for the bully. Expulsion should have been the punishment for the bully. The victim deserved the suspension. Fighting should not be tolerated. Suspending the bully is not strong enough to send the correct message to both him and the rest of the students.
It reminds me of the guy that got shot breaking into another person's house a couple of months ago. Some on here were saying the guy had no right to shoot the guy. Others had the same line of thinking as me, if you don't want to get shot, then stay out of other people's homes. In this case, if you don't want to get f'd up, then don't mess with people 4 years older than you. (I read somewhere that Casey is 16 and the little punk is 12, which makes me think that kid is even dumber than originally thought.)