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BYU to the Big 12 discussion???

Irrelevant to my post. Utah took the first offer it got. Nothing wrong with that and nothing to be defensive about.

Actually, if you want to bring up relevancy, your whole post was irrelevant because you completely missed my point. You probably just need to read a little more carefully. It's cool though. Nothing you needed to go flying off the handle about. But I forgive you. Frustration can be a tough master.

Peace be with you, conan.
 
I wonder if Utah would have gotten a Big 12 invite this year with TCU if they had missed out on the Pac last year.

TCU/Utah would have been 2 good adds for the conference and they would have came without the extra requests for their own TV channel and such. Obviously, Utah took the first offer presented to them by a big conference, but that's not to say it would have been their last/only offer.
 
Obviously, Utah took the first offer presented to them by a big conference, but that's not to say it would have been their last/only offer.
No doubt. But given how this season is going, it's good they didn't wait. Strike while the iron is hot.
 
No doubt. But given how this season is going, it's good they didn't wait. Strike while the iron is hot.

I really hate it when I agree with you.

However, if they had waited, they'd still be beating up on New Mexico and UNLV. They'd get hammered by Boise and lose to TCU and finish with 10 wins yet again. That's why I actually enjoy this new Pac 12 stuff. Even though Utah is 5-and-4, at least we'll have a better idea year in and year out on just how good/bad Utah is.
 
No doubt. But given how this season is going, it's good they didn't wait. Strike while the iron is hot.

Really? If Utah had stayed in the MWC they would be a 10 win team and 2nd to boise in the MWC. Maybe 3rd depending on the outcome of the Utah/TCU game.

In the end I'd much rather play in the Pac than an unstable and iffy conference like the big12 is at this time.
 
Really? If Utah had stayed in the MWC they would be a 10 win team and 2nd to boise in the MWC. Maybe 3rd depending on the outcome of the Utah/TCU game.

In the end I'd much rather play in the Pac than an unstable and iffy conference like the big12 is at this time.

I don't think the BIG 12 is a shaky as it was even 3 months ago. It's still a no-brainer if a team worked out an invite. For the Utes, the PAC 12 was the ideal fit. For other schools, maybe not.

And I'm with jazzman12. I'd rather see Utah go through their awkward stage in the PAC12 than be a bridesmaid in the MWC.
 
I don't think the BIG 12 is a shaky as it was even 3 months ago. It's still a no-brainer if a team worked out an invite. For the Utes, the PAC 12 was the ideal fit. For other schools, maybe not.

And I'm with jazzman12. I'd rather see Utah go through their awkward stage in the PAC12 than be a bridesmaid in the MWC.

No doubt but Conan implied that Utah would be left out if they were still in the MWC. I don't buy that. They would have recieved the invite to the big 12 when BYU was in negotiations. Meaning they would have been one of the Big 12's 1st choices.

I am ecstatic that Utah is in the Pac 12. I'd rather be there than the big 12 or especially the big east.
 
I really hate it when I agree with you.

However, if they had waited, they'd still be beating up on New Mexico and UNLV. They'd get hammered by Boise and lose to TCU and finish with 10 wins yet again. That's why I actually enjoy this new Pac 12 stuff. Even though Utah is 5-and-4, at least we'll have a better idea year in and year out on just how good/bad Utah is.
There's pros and cons to both but I'll take the beating of a tough region over cupcakes all day.
 
I'm actually quite surprised the Utes didn't wait for the SEC invite.
We all know it was on it's way if they were just patient enough.
 
No doubt but Conan implied that Utah would be left out if they were still in the MWC. I don't buy that. They would have recieved the invite to the big 12 when BYU was in negotiations. Meaning they would have been one of the Big 12's 1st choices.
Probably true. Given that most everyone but Utah homers knew Utah would struggle in the Pac12 to start. But especially important that the guys making the decisions in the Pac12 knew it so it stands to reason other conferences would also overlook the current team.

I am ecstatic that Utah is in the Pac 12. I'd rather be there than the big 12 or especially the big east.
No question it's the best conference for Utah. It was good that it was the "first" offer.
 
Really? If Utah had stayed in the MWC they would be a 10 win team and 2nd to boise in the MWC. Maybe 3rd depending on the outcome of the Utah/TCU game.

In the end I'd much rather play in the Pac than an unstable and iffy conference like the big12 is at this time.
Can't disagree with this.
 
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