Can We Please Just Waive NWG?

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm also not a moron and recognize there must be a reason they are keeping NWG. It's some combination of his playing ability, organizational trust in his personality in the lockerroom, and his flexible contract guarantee date.

It's annoying to see people act like the Jazz are stupid just because they arent doign what they want them to. There is an angle to what they are doing and I just try to understand it.

I love the idea that it’s about some smart angle they have... some master end game... and not just the fact he’s on the roster and it’s easier this way.

The searching for logic on the TB pick, the fact that they used no cap space years ago, that they don’t understand DM should be a better pg.... etc etc... many on here have questioned them and been proven right.

Churn the end of the roster for diamonds or get guys that can actually help. NWG having an upside of Neto is not worth a roster spot.

 

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Is Shaq the next Alex Caruso, the missing piece?

Yes... I started a thread about it.

 

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Just think about being Miye or Niang and learning the Jazz brought in a guy that could take your playing time... they gonna work harder or pack it up. It isn’t just Shaq. There are other guys out there that are way more useful. Most of us try to get value out of every roster spot we have on our fantasy teams... I expect nba franchises to do the same. The current depth chart works well until Bojan isn’t ready to start the season or Mike’s hamstrings act up and another guys gets Covid and is out for a month.

And those guys won’t be there even if @Saint Cy of JFC says they will be... they go overseas or get signed by other clubs. No G league season so you won’t find a diamond there. Hell the g league mvp is a point guard and is unsigned. If NWG was a free agent no one here would be looking for us to ho get him.

This is the same front office that kept Exum too long and picked up TBs options only to have to dump him... there isn’t some mind blowing end game... they simply don’t make a move because that is easier.

 

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I love the idea that it’s about some smart angle they have... some master end game... and not just the fact he’s on the roster and it’s easier this way.

The searching for logic on the TB pick, the fact that they used no cap space years ago, that they don’t understand DM should be a better pg.... etc etc... many on here have questioned them and been proven right.

Churn the end of the roster for diamonds or get guys that can actually help. NWG having an upside of Neto is not worth a roster spot.

The "master plan" theory needs to be continually compared to the actual fruits. We've been going on 3 years of master plan, and we've been lower-seeded than our opponent and getting bumped in the first round the past couple years.

 

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If NWG was a free agent no one here would be looking for us to ho get him.

And if NWG were a free agent and we were to say "go get NWG!" the crew cool with him now would suddenly have arguments for how stupid that sounds.

 

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The "master plan" theory needs to be continually compared to the actual fruits. We've been going on 3 years of master plan, and we've been lower-seeded than our opponent and getting bumped in the first round the past couple years.

It’s longer than that... it dates back to cake bakkkkkking when I brought up how we should prolly use our cap space to improve the roster and everyone except the smart people shouted me down and applauded the flexibility... even though the flexibility brought nothing and DL acknowledged it may have been the wrong route.

But the FO Truthers swore up and down there was some plan a simp like me couldn’t possibly see and there were many lolz and much rofl.

 

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And if NWG were a free agent and we were to say "go get NWG!" the crew cool with him now would suddenly have arguments for how stupid that sounds.

The same crew that lol’d when I suggested Udoka is a bad use of a pick and they will just bring in vet... lmao no way they got this kid cuz he ready... then they disappear when they are proven to be wrong.

 

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And if NWG were a free agent and we were to say "go get NWG!" the crew cool with him now would suddenly have arguments for how stupid that sounds.

If you were one of our many GMs isn't this the type of logic and reasonable test you would use? I've done so in business when advising others on investments and dev projects. It really hits home sometimes.

 

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lmao ok man, no need to get super butt hurt just because I have a different opinion.

He’s not butt hurt, he’s demonstrating that you’re a horse’s ***.

 

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He’s not butt hurt, he’s demonstrating that you’re a horse’s ***.

The comps felt relevant.

 

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I'm also not trying to be whiny and I asked nicely. I think Shaq is available for the minimum based on the deal RHJ got. I am fairly certain it would be easy to do a sign and trade with the Bulls using the TB trade exception and sending them a fake 2nd and $115,000 in cash (the minimum you can send) for their troubles. Could give him a 2-3 year deal around $3M a year and I would bet that is more than the market is churning up for him currently. He's a great defender... like elite. The other stuff he provides would be icing on the cake at that number.

We aren't getting out of the tax (without a trade) and this maneuver will cost and extra 4M in tax and salary this year but could be a real asset. Do you think Balmer would even bat an eye at $4m? Cuban? It would also potentially lead to big savings if having another valuable rotation player lets you move Mike for less returning salary.

Or we could just say he is the 3rd pg and when we have an injury or two he can play and get exposed... it will be midseason and options will be limited so we roll with it. This is the Tony Bradley MO.

Or we could have good health and no need for NWG because he's a one position player. Meanwhile the perimeter defense could still use a handsy defender and Shaq could have logged some minutes along the way.

Not making roster improvements because you want to clear the way for a young guy to get some minutes or because another guy can help the practice team be more organized is dumb... sorry. It wreaks of wanting success using your guys/projects and not just wanting success and giving the team the best shot at it.

 

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There’s no reason not to add Shaq and/or Roberson if you can get them in minimums.

Show me your G League guys with defensive highlight tapes like this:

You can’t because he’s guarding everyone from Lowry and Dragic types to Luka in that clip and those guys don’t play in the g league. He also has multiple help blocks on bigs.

He’s a do **** guy and we have maybe one do **** guy on this team.