Can't We All Just Get Along?

[gregbroncs]

It may be easier to get a long when the poster's who continually attack people or troll are gone. I liked some of Franklin's posts and did not mind a lot of what he did. However poster's like Sloanfeld that bring nothing to the board and harrass people through Rep and Email should be gone.

I rarely report posts. Maybe twice since the board update. If a post is disgusting or blatant attacking I feel it should be reported. Why can't the posters just follow the rules? Instead of blaming the people reporting the posts, blame the people who make the posts that are against the rules.

 

[colton]

Can't they just create another username?

No. That is, once you are banned you are banned in every instance. So if we detect a banned user back on the site, it's an instant re-ban. We have a couple of methods in place we can use to tell whether a new user is a recycled banned user. Of course, a person who is talented enough can likely outsmart our "security systems", but the sentiment is the same--once banned, forever banned. (Unless the site has a massive crash and Jason implements a general amnesty...)

Though I haven't always seen eye to eye with the mods i always felt like you really have to try to get banned in order to get banned from jazzfanz.

Yep.

 

[Bronco70]

Franklin gave a lot to the board and I enjoyed reading his posts even if I didn't agree with someone of them or thought some where tasteless.

I'm not sure that anyone disliked franklin. He was a likable guy, funny, and very intelligent. He did bring a lot to the board. That being said, permanent banishment is a process. If a poster can't (or won't) figure out where the boundaries are by the time they've accumulated 5 infractions within 180 days, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm speculating, but in franklin's case he seemed pretty much bent on seeing what it took to get the perma-ban. I'm not sure why - he appeared to get either bored or annoyed. I wish he were here too. But anyway, you were saying about a double standard...

 

[Archie Moses]

I'm not sure that anyone disliked franklin. He was a likable guy, funny, and very intelligent. He did bring a lot to the board. That being said, permanent banishment is a process. If a poster can't (or won't) figure out where the boundaries are by the time they've accumulated 5 infractions within 180 days, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm speculating, but in franklin's case he seemed pretty much bent on seeing what it took to get the perma-ban. I'm not sure why - he appeared to get either bored or annoyed. I wish he were here too. But anyway, you were saying about a double standard...

I can't really argue with that. I guess the banned posters got what they deserved.

 

[PearlWatson]

I'm not sure that anyone disliked franklin. He was a likable guy, funny, and very intelligent. He did bring a lot to the board. That being said, permanent banishment is a process. If a poster can't (or won't) figure out where the boundaries are by the time they've accumulated 5 infractions within 180 days, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm speculating, but in franklin's case he seemed pretty much bent on seeing what it took to get the perma-ban. I'm not sure why - he appeared to get either bored or annoyed. I wish he were here too. But anyway, you were saying about a double standard...

I don't see how someone can figure out the boundaries if we aren't informed when someone has gotten an infraction and for what reason.

This mod "curtain" isn't conducive to informed users.

 

[bigb]

I don't see how someone can figure out the boundaries if we aren't informed when someone has gotten an infraction and for what reason.

This mod "curtain" isn't conducive to informed users.

You have a negative opinion about the mods and the mod process? Boy am I surprised!

 

[Bronco70]

I don't see how someone can figure out the boundaries if we aren't informed when someone has gotten an infraction and for what reason.

This mod "curtain" isn't conducive to informed users.

If you post by the rules, which are available to all, you will have no problems. The moderation staff is neither obligated nor inclined to discuss or explain every decision that is made. Most posters seem to get along just fine in this system. If a real issue existed, I would suppose that it would negatively effect more than a small handful of participants.

 

[PearlWatson]

Its the topic of the day after the banning Crisis.

I am sort of fascinated by the greater philosophical questions this brings to mind relating to justice, open government, protest, etc.

 

[PearlWatson]

If you post by the rules, which are available to all, you will have no problems. The moderation staff is neither obligated nor inclined to discuss or explain every decision that is made. Most posters seem to get along just fine in this system. If a real issue existed, I would suppose that it would negatively effect more than a small handful of participants.

I believe Franklin got an infraction for starting a thread about a book on How parents should deal with homosexuality. Am I right? What rule did that violate that we should be aware of?
I got an infraction for circumventing the filters on a word I didn't realize was filtered. Little things like that could add up over six months. All you would need is to get one infraction per month.

 

[colton]

I don't see how someone can figure out the boundaries if we aren't informed when someone has gotten an infraction and for what reason.

You are informed when YOU have gotten an infraction and for what reason.

If it takes a poster more than four of those to figure out the boundaries, well then perhaps he or she shouldn't be here. Survival of the fittest, and all that.

 

[colton]

I believe Franklin got an infraction for starting a thread about a book on How parents should deal with homosexuality. Am I right? What rule did that violate that we should be aware of?

Trolling.

I got an infraction for circumventing the filters on a word I didn't realize was filtered. Little things like that could add up over six months. All you would need is to get one infraction per month.

And yet 90-95% of the active posters do not have a SINGLE infraction or warning. Go figure.

 

[babe]

Being frustrated with any authoritative system is bound to create some "feedback". Ultimately, our ideals about justice and rights are dependent on the common currency of social conventions, prevailing noms, the feelings and opinions even "authorities" fear just enough to pretend to respect.

That's why letting some agenda monkeys get the grip on public education or any other institution will always ultimately change the direction of development. Whether it is progress or relapse into babylonian autocracy is something you can really discuss only when it's not babylonian autocracy.

Hey, I need to get a message to Franklin. I want to eat out at that oriental joint in Sandy, or some "All you can eat" Chinese buffet. About next Tuesday I'll announce the meetup. Trout, Millsappa, anyone else wanna show?