CBA Talk

[SoberasHotRod]

It feels like the overall consequence of the new CBA will be more money distributed to role players which in consequence means less money for stars.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think you would always want the option to pay more, but there is a weird dynamic that if the money is available the player will want all of it. It can create a grey area situation that can works against the homegrown team. It's debatable as to whether or not the supermax has truly helped teams trying to retain their players while also building good teams around them. I think having the extra bonus not count against the cap makes it much better for the teams trying to resign their players + build a team around them and the player still gets the money. It would have been super helpful to the Jazz, for example, if that additional money only they could give to Gobert did not count against the cap.

If the "advantage" is purely going to be the ability to spend more money, it's always going to benefit the teams that can pay more money more. I do kinda wonder if the league wants it to be this way, however. The extra punitive luxury tax penalties, for example, were sold as a way to help small market teams but that absolutely worked in favor of the big spending teams.

The Supermax is another story and I actually agree with you. The additional amount of money shouldn't count against the cap.

I just think the more options you have available to you the better chance you have of retaining your most important talent. For a small or medium market that is huge. Just don't want a Gordon Hayward situation where a guy walks for nothing. There are other ways they could address it but they would prohibit player movement... so this route is easier.

Its more about the OG Anunoby's, Dejounte Murray's and maybe the Lauri's of the world. Not sure 140% helps those extension happen now... but it will be closer to getting it done and those would likely be bargains... gives the player and team security.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It feels like the overall consequence of the new CBA will be more money distributed to role players which in consequence means less money for stars.

Kinda seems that way with the exception increases... also with the mega taxpayers losing exceptions maybe those role players go for the money with smaller market teams.

Will be interesting to see all the unintended consequences.

 

[KqWIN]

The Supermax is another story and I actually agree with you. The additional amount of money shouldn't count against the cap.

I just think the more options you have available to you the better chance you have of retaining your most important talent. For a small or medium market that is huge. Just don't want a Gordon Hayward situation where a guy walks for nothing. There are other ways they could address it but they would prohibit player movement... so this route is easier.

Its more about the OG Anunoby's, Dejounte Murray's and maybe the Lauri's of the world. Not sure 140% helps those extension happen now... but it will be closer to getting it done and those would likely be bargains... gives the player and team security.

So my dumb *** thought this 140% increase was the supermax.

For extensions....yeah I'm totally with you. I don't know even know why there is a cap on this. The fact that you have to wait to give a guy the contract he's earned until he hits FA is a dumb CBA mechanism.

 

[One Brow]

I wonder if teams will start playing a guy just for the first six minutes of a game just so they can count it as playing.

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That will give the fans of the game 6 minutes that they otherwise wouldn't get, which is the supposed goal of the 65-game rule.

 

[fishonjazz]

That will give the fans of the game 6 minutes that they otherwise wouldn't get, which is the supposed goal of the 65-game rule.

Would also really expose the current system of resting guys who could very easily play. I know its something we all know is already happening but it would look much much more blatant if teams started playing guys a couple minutes in a game just to give them a "game played" stat. might make fans get more vocal in complaining about the resting of players and maybe lead to something putting an end to it somehow.

 

[MTS]

I wonder if teams will start playing a guy just for the first six minutes of a game just so they can count it as playing.

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I actually don't think this will be an issue.

Players care a lot about their per-game stats, and playing only 6 minutes a game even a handful of times will tank those numbers.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I actually don't think this will be an issue.

Players care a lot about their per-game stats, and playing only 6 minutes a game even a handful of times will tank those numbers.

Boom.

 

[fishonjazz]

I actually don't think this will be an issue.

Players care a lot about their per-game stats, and playing only 6 minutes a game even a handful of times will tank those numbers.

Thats very good point. Would be funny to see Kawhi averaging 7 points point and 2 rebounds per game.

 

[TheStormofWar]

- It appears you can now trade picks only 6 years out... not 7... This is a big deal as it removes a lot of potential inventory from the market between just taking that option off the table and the Stepien rule... might remove like 25% or more of the tradeable pick from the market.

That would explain why I just saw Ainge with a bag of blow and gaggle of folks in suits and ladies/gentlemen of the night rolling past in a limo. That's a super-benefit for Utah in the short term.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I believe the MLE can be used as a trade exception now… interesting if true.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I believe the MLE can be used as a trade exception now… interesting if true.

Heard Zach Lowe mention it iirc