Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic
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FWIW, I thought that WCJ was going to be much closer to a Sexton replacement than a Keyonte replacement. Even though their style of play are very different, the results are very similar. They have very similar usg%, ast%, reb%, TS%, ast/to ratio, etc.
WCJ is not a natural playmaker, but has grown a lot in that area, just like Sexton.
WCJ is not a natural playmaker, but has grown a lot in that area, just like Sexton.
It doesn't even show him being a recent follow. They had to search his name. Kind of a lazy attempt at this
Park Bites
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Lol this is funny when Cy is the voice of reason on jazz fanz. Gained more rep in my eyes
2nd Ainge was never a big second rounder guy. He has spent them like candy.
3rd I can see something like this happening. The jazz brass is sitting down and realize they have to move sexton. They look at the players that the Jazz can trade straight up for sexton. Nurkic name comes up the jazz call. Knowing nurkic doesnt have a future in Charlotte. Jazz say we will swap players. Charlotte says sexton doesnt fit into the picture of what we are trying to create. AA says what if we throw in a second. Charlotte says ... that pick. AA ok let's do it.
I am pretty sure the jazz initiated the contact. That gave Charlotte the upper hand but now the jazz have a back up center, which is a need. One less small guard, which is a need. This was a win win. Live with it.
2nd Ainge was never a big second rounder guy. He has spent them like candy.
3rd I can see something like this happening. The jazz brass is sitting down and realize they have to move sexton. They look at the players that the Jazz can trade straight up for sexton. Nurkic name comes up the jazz call. Knowing nurkic doesnt have a future in Charlotte. Jazz say we will swap players. Charlotte says sexton doesnt fit into the picture of what we are trying to create. AA says what if we throw in a second. Charlotte says ... that pick. AA ok let's do it.
I am pretty sure the jazz initiated the contact. That gave Charlotte the upper hand but now the jazz have a back up center, which is a need. One less small guard, which is a need. This was a win win. Live with it.
Schrödinger's Gerbil
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Adios to an underrated and under appreciated Colin Sexton. The trade has the hallmarks of a player dump; traded for the detritus that Charlotte didn't want, plus we had to give them something in return. Criminally uneven trade. He's a baller that deserves better. I hope he has an opportunity to shine and change his narrative in Charlotte.
I unironically think this is a good trade for the Jazz and it makes me more optimistic about how things are going to go moving forward. First thing to get out of the way, we are not trying move forward and trying to make the playoffs. Thank god!
Sexton had no value to this Jazz team. All he would do is take away minutes and work against our tank. His in court value would be a net negative, so despite the optics, we are in a better position without Sexton in the roster. And it was a nice bonus to give him to one of our top tank competitors. Last season, Sexton produced 3.8 estimated wins per EPM. Let’s be conservative all call it 3. Taking away 3 wins from us and adding 3 wins to one of our biggest tank competitors could absolutely come into play next season.
This is a move that DA would never do. AA is paying for the sins of his father. DA would let his ego get in the way and would rather leave the franchise worse off than let go of his stubbornness and ego. If we had AA, we would not have had those half tank years that amounted to almost nothing.
The only downside is that despite all this, we probably should have been able to negotiate a straight up trade….but the franchise is in a better position after this trade and that’s what matters most.
Sexton had no value to this Jazz team. All he would do is take away minutes and work against our tank. His in court value would be a net negative, so despite the optics, we are in a better position without Sexton in the roster. And it was a nice bonus to give him to one of our top tank competitors. Last season, Sexton produced 3.8 estimated wins per EPM. Let’s be conservative all call it 3. Taking away 3 wins from us and adding 3 wins to one of our biggest tank competitors could absolutely come into play next season.
This is a move that DA would never do. AA is paying for the sins of his father. DA would let his ego get in the way and would rather leave the franchise worse off than let go of his stubbornness and ego. If we had AA, we would not have had those half tank years that amounted to almost nothing.
The only downside is that despite all this, we probably should have been able to negotiate a straight up trade….but the franchise is in a better position after this trade and that’s what matters most.
John Collins for Terry Rozier or Marcus Smart swap incoming
Market Smart trade would bring a whole new dimension to tanking. AA is sending anti-tank weaponry to his biggest opponents lol.
Schrödinger's Gerbil
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True, this deal isn't franchise altering. And if it's a bad trade, it's not a horrifically bad trade with significant costs. So, not worth THAT much angst from a team building POV (especially since he was unlikely to be resigned at the end of his contract). It may actually be good for Sexton, as he is more likely to be featured at Charlotte than here. I think it sucks more in that I think Sexton is damn good. He deserves far more respect than he gets. Oh well.
What some others are saying makes sense to me, pending more information, that this move allows the Jazz to offer fans a fig leaf of trying to win without actually trying to win. It's a move to give ownership and FO plausible deniability for continuing to purposively suck. Oh joy!