rjfan
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Can you tell me that Gobert roll didn't give you a boner this game ?Perv.
Can you tell me that Gobert roll didn't give you a boner this game ?Perv.
That lefty sky hook definitely did.Can you tell me that Gobert roll didn't give you a boner this game ?
Next year may be substantially different from this year. Perhaps Mitchell has really taken a big step forward as a playmaker and we can afford to move Joe to the bench. Perhaps Conley is finally more comfortable and we can increase his ball-handling duties. But one of the big storylines of this year is that, try as we did to decrease our dependence on Joe, all those changes netted no difference. Moving him to the bench didn’t work. And I’m not betting that next year will be different. If we retain JC and let him gun off the bench, then Joe becomes a wallflower in that role. And do you really think someone besides Joe is magically going to step forward and learn how to feed Rudy at a similar rate and effectiveness? And it’s Rudy’s threat as a rim runner that’s opening Joe’s layup line (nobody on the bench has anywhere near Rudy’s impact).This whole debate about whether or not Conley should start will continue into next season. Obviously. Let’s not let the current moment cloud two important things: Bogdanovic’s absence (which makes including Conley in the starting lineup easier to reconcile with), and the much less physical nature of these bubble playoff games from a regular playoff game (the physicality of a Conley-Mitchell-Joe-Royce combo isn’t great, to say the least, and this is being papered over right now).
Starting both Joe and Royce was hugely important to our starting lineup this year. You can’t do that if you’re also starting Bogey and Conley.
Still loling?
LolJazz defense could be better with Conley. He can roam off Craig. He can cause disruption. He gives someone who can stay attached to Murray on the perimeter if they need him to guard him. He's a guy who has a career 3.6 BPM in playoff games.
LolYall are better than this. For real.
yeah, that's why I said i wish we hadn't paid 30mil on a player who is "not bad" and instead could use those extra bucks to bring in a few more 3D guysOr we have two more 3nD (like both their 3 and their D were off) role players alongside a productive backcourt and actually have more defensive answers to Murray than hope that we have two guys going for efficient 40 instead of just one.
What's conleys salary compared to the others you mentioned and what did we give up to get Conley vs what we gave up to get the others? Unfortunately that **** has an effect on expectations and perception.Conley got 21 on 7 of 13 shots, 4 of 6 from 3, 6 assists to 2 turnovers, minus 8 on a 12 point loss, playing 34 minutes.
Clarkson went 5 of 14 on his shots, 1 of 6 from distance to get his 11 points, 2 assists for his 2 turnovers, playing 30 minutes and ending it on minus 24.
Niang played 20 minutes, shot 3 of 6 fg, 2 of 4 of his threes, and still weren't impactful enough to suggest that his minus 19 were harsh (sincerely, is his production at least even if he's not shooting like this on volume ?)
Ingles played 30 minutes, got 5 points, went 1 of 4 for the game, all being three point attempts, to a better than previous two minus 4
Conley not been helping on defense, and i don't expect that. But of these four performances, all being poor defenders, the defeat is on Conley defense and not enough impactful offense ? I strongly disagree.
We also gave up players and picks to get Conley.Well, Clarkson getting 13 mil and Ingles 12 mil, they're not on as friendly deals as O'Neale and Mitchell been for this season, so if the money the player makes is what matters, these two should play up to what they get too.
Conley were way closer to his 32 mil than the 25 mil combined duo did. He literally got more points, threes, and even one more board than the two decently paid role players combined,
tying their combined assists and turnovers, and a better average of +/-
And also Snyder should earn his payday and not allow Malone to run circles around him, that should help too.
Thing is Clarkson, and Ingles are role players who are paid like role players. Role players often play a role and little else. Clarkson has been pretty amazing this season at his role. Joe has been pretty good at his role for years. But they are role players who are paid like role players and will also suck somewhat often (that's what role players do and why they get 10-20 million rather than 30 plus)Well, Clarkson getting 13 mil and Ingles 12 mil, they're not on as friendly deals as O'Neale and Mitchell been for this season, so if the money the player makes is what matters, these two should play up to what they get too.
Conley were way closer to his 32 mil than the 25 mil combined duo did. He literally got more points, threes, and even one more board than the two decently paid role players combined,
tying their combined assists and turnovers, and a better average of +/-
And also Snyder should earn his payday and not allow Malone to run circles around him, that should help too.