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Conley to start soon.

Im not advocating for it but I wonder if we signed Favors to the full MLE, if that would cure a lot of our woes. Backup 5. Even at the 4 some as with Bogey now, we could throw a Mitchell-Ingles-Bogey-Favors-Gobert lineup out there which is light years better than when Rubio was at the 1.
 
With cap holds and all for other players, if Conley opts out (dream with me), how much cap space will we even have? Royce’s extension and Clarkson’s cap hold have to have put a hell of a dent in that.
 
The Thriller said:
I seem to remember many posters this past summer voicing concerns over Conley’s size, age, and durability. He’s no spring chicken. Perhaps... I know this might come as a yewge disappointment to some of you... But perhaps he’s lost a step or two?

And those who claim that players don’t “magically start sucking in one year” obviously haven’t been paying attention to sports. Father Time hits and when he hits hard.

Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, Tracy Mcgrady, Steve Nash, and Allen Iverson are all players that I remember as being dominate and then suddenly sucking. Some of its due to injury. But Dirk and Duncan especially come to mind as players who looked like they still had some gas left in the tank and then suddenly falling off.

And that’s just talking about basketball. We could go into football. Ever heard of the Manning brothers? One in particular, was a Hall or Famer. However, in his final year with Denver, he could barely throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield. It was a sad spectacle to watch for a guy who just a season prior was throwing for thousands of yards. His team won the super bowl despite his unbelievably poor play.
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Most of those were franchise players/generational talents. Way more skilled than what Conley ever was. I have a different view of Duncan/Dirk decline. In my view they were still dominant until their early/mid 30s and were able to play at a decent level until they were 40. Kobe got ruined by the Achilles. Iverson could have played a bit longer but his ego got in the way.

Nash? Yeah. He fell off a cliff with his back injuries.

Conley just turned 32 and still looks pretty quick to me. He gets to his spots. But yeah, a serious injury at this stage could derail his career pretty quickly.
 
latin jazz said:
Most of those were franchise players/generational talents. Way more skilled than what Conley ever was. I have a different view of Duncan/Dirk decline. In my view they were still dominant until their early/mid 30s and were able to play at a decent level until they were 40. Kobe got ruined by the Achilles. Iverson could have played a bit longer but his ego got in the way.

Nash? Yeah. He fell off a cliff with his back injuries.

Conley just turned 32 and still looks pretty quick to me. He gets to his spots. But yeah, a serious injury at this stage could derail his career pretty quickly.
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really? Conley looks quick to you? He looks pretty slow to me. Reminds me a lot of Trey Burke. He’s not quick enough to get around the guards of the NBA without a pick and is too short/unathletic to score inside. The only way he does score is with his outside shot, which is hovering in the mid 30s this year.

I can’t be the only one to notice the similarities between Conley and Burke, right?
 
Conley was really good in Dave Joerger's offense. Perhaps Quin can try and replicate some of those plays when Conley is on the floor.
 
The Thriller said:
really? Conley looks quick to you? He looks pretty slow to me. Reminds me a lot of Trey Burke. He’s not quick enough to get around the guards of the NBA without a pick and is too short/unathletic to score inside. The only way he does score is with his outside shot, which is hovering in the mid 30s this year.

I can’t be the only one to notice the similarities between Conley and Burke, right?
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He is never been Russ, but he does look quick and similar to what I've seen from him in recent years. So we agree to disagree in that. I'm also paying a lot of attention on his closeouts and defense. He is been getting to the rim a bit more. Something to pay attention to in upcoming games.
 
latin jazz said:
He is never been Russ, but he does look quick and similar to what I've seen from him in recent years. So we agree to disagree in that. I'm also paying a lot of attention on his closeouts and defense. He is been getting to the rim a bit more. Something to pay attention to in upcoming games.
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But when he gets to the rim (usually off a screen because he doesn’t have the quickness to create on his own) it is very Trey Burkesque how he misses/gets stuffed. And his shooting percentage proves it.
 
The Thriller said:
But when he gets to the rim (usually off a screen because he doesn’t have the quickness to create on his own) it is very Trey Burkesque how he misses/gets stuffed. And his shooting percentage proves it.
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Yup, but I think it has to do with his strenght, height and jumping ability, not quickness. He's never been able to go through people. He get pushed around due to his size. Thats why he honed a killer ambidextrous floater over the years (not falling this year though). If his floater is gone then he has no way to score inside (except at the ft line, something unlikely as he ages)

Edit: almost everyone on the Jazz uses a screen to create separation/advantage. It's our offense and how we should use the best screener in the league.
 
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