Coronavirus
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I’ll post more on this later, but the bottom line is that every study is asking a different question. In society, we like simple answers, either something is good or bad. But I’ll post more on this later.
Herd immunity is more of a theoretical concept. Influenza is a bad example because it is different strains every year.
That's true but you still have some level of defense against normal flu strands right? That's why the 1918 flu was so bad because it was a type that most people had not seen except older people. That's why it was one of the few times old people were less effected because their bodies could fight it better.
Red
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Long road back for some survivors. I don’t need to weigh mortality rates to convince me social distancing and face masks are the way I will go. Potential outcomes of this sort are plenty reason enough. Glad I’m living in a state where the governor is a highly intelligent woman and the citizens are acting responsibly, for the most part so far. I understand that can change, and our record in nursing homes is abysmal. Still, for time being, one of only two states where case numbers are falling. At the moment....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/09/coronavirus-ventilator-rehabilitation/
www.theguardian.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/09/coronavirus-ventilator-rehabilitation/
The long road to recovery for Covid-19 patients
From muscle wastage to PTSD, patients discharged from critical care face tough convalescence
www.theguardian.com
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Keefe
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So 7,093 pneumonia deaths?
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Do you think there will be different strains of this virus as well?
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Red
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Obviously, @infection is more qualified to address this. If you do a google search for mutations with this virus, there are presently lots of returns that point to a study suggesting that it has mutated into a strain that is 10x more infectious, but not more deadly. To the best of my knowledge, it has not been peer reviewed and probably best to treat the conclusion cautiously....
Mutated COVID-19 Viral Strain in U.S. and Europe 10 Times More Contagious than Original Strain | BioSpace
Researchers have found that the strains spreading so quickly in Europe and the U.S. have a mutated S “spike” protein that makes it about 10 times more infectious than the strain that originally was identified in Asia.
www.biospace.com
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Avery
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You do realize that there’s pretty much no way to spin anything with the federal response to COVID that’s a win, right?
It’s best to not even try.
Yes, deaths where pneumonia was listed as a contributing factor.
candrew
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There were similar jumps in NY and NJ - although unlike Florida that could be attributed to being hit hard, being hit first and an overwhealmed health care system.
In Florida there has been a conscientious effort to underreport the numbers.
Avery
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Once we have a vacc and vast innoculations, we can start to clear the fog.
Until then, I would expect it will just continue to simmer with some peaks and valleys across states.
Spain just released a 61,000 patient study that herd immunity just isn't effective.
Sorry bub
Really wouldn't mind a link to that study tho.
The most disturbing thing about the whole show is stupidity in government. Orders given that actually do more harm than good. Perfectly sensible measures totally ignored. And that's not Trump. Trump knows nothing, can be expected to know nothing. He can only rely on "Experts" who have political ties to the old order of governance. Trump doesn't have the political power to just overthrow all that. And if he did, likely he would just do worse, not better.
The most significant things we can do involve HVAC systems. The shields at business counters are pretty good, but without HVAC filtration and uv light disinfection, it's not actually effective. The business counters can be remodeled to install uv disinfection light from above and below, so cards and cash and paperwork gets disinfected on the spot.
Lots of stupid orders closing swimming pools, which with chlorine as normally used, constitutes a disinfection bath, good for everyone.
homes, apartments, businesses, schools, offices, stores..... the works..... all need disinfection/filtration in the HVAC ducts.
Put down as babe's wise saying..... government is incompetent in everything it does. Better to let people do what they know for themselves.
The Thriller
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The level of projection here... unreal
“liberate the schools!”
“liberate the schools!”
Avery
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Red
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I was under the impression that this was already well known....
www.cnn.com
academic.oup.com
Coronavirus can float in air and WHO and CDC should tell people that, experts say
Coronavirus can be airborne and these 239 scientists want people to know about aerosol and droplet transmission of Covid-19.
It Is Time to Address Airborne Transmission of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
We appeal to the medical community and to the relevant national and international bodies to recognize the potential for airborne spread of coronavirus dise
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