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Fauci is a voice of reason and good at what he does. Supporting yourself with simply 'yes' men doesn't effectively solve root causes.

I like Fauci. I still worry he or the govt as a whole is mainly focusing on 1 part of the puzzle though. Total # of deaths. There are a lot more pieces at play here. Unemployment, economic collapse, suicides, small businesses being destroyed, etc ... just seems like all anyone is talking about is keeping the deaths as low as possible when there are so many more pieces of this pie that half to be addressed.
 
I like Fauci. I still worry he or the govt as a whole is mainly focusing on 1 part of the puzzle though. Total # of deaths. There are a lot more pieces at play here. Unemployment, economic collapse, suicides, small businesses being destroyed, etc ... just seems like all anyone is talking about is keeping the deaths as low as possible when there are so many more pieces of this pie that half to be addressed.



Deaths is the only concern. And should be. You can’t have an economy with sick and dying workers and consumers. I don’t understand why this is such a hard concept for people to understand.
 
Imagine the outrage from the right if President Clinton had appointed Chelsea and her husband to a pandemic task force. Then again, Jared has already solved the opioid crisis and created Middle East peace...

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Deaths is the only concern. And should be. You can’t have an economy with sick and dying workers and consumers. I don’t understand why this is such a hard concept for people to understand.


A good amount of deaths and hospitalizations are out of the workforce already. Social distancing, wearing masks, more remote work .... all good with all those things .... Crippling the entire economy has seemed unnecessary at best and idiotic at worst.
 
A good amount of deaths and hospitalizations are out of the workforce already. Social distancing, wearing masks, more remote work .... all good with all those things .... Crippling the entire economy has seemed unnecessary at best and idiotic at worst.

The economy isn’t coming back to life with 30,000+ infected and 2,000+ dying every single day. Sick and dying people make poor workers and consumers.

We need far more widespread testing and/or better treatments before life returns to any semblance of normal.

Disagree? Go argue with state governors, health care specialists, and business leaders... And common sense. People aren’t just going to go back to their jobs because you think this has been overblown.
 
The economy isn’t coming back to life with 30,000+ infected and 2,000+ dying every single day. Sick and dying people make poor workers and consumers.

We need far more widespread testing and/or better treatments before life returns to any semblance of normal.

Disagree? Go argue with state governors, health care specialists, and business leaders... And common sense. People aren’t just going to go back to their jobs because you think this has been overblown.

1,000% disagree with those numbers. In a country of 365 million, 30,000 infected and 2,000 deaths a day is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Other than sad families and doctors working extra hours that wouldn't effect the economy in the least sans the scare mongering going on. 30,000 sick and 2,000 dying a day was happening all day every day leading up to this already. It just wasn't labled COVID deaths.
 
1,000% disagree with those numbers. In a country of 365 million, 30,000 infected and 2,000 deaths a day is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Other than sad families and doctors working extra hours that wouldn't effect the economy in the least sans the scare mongering going on. 30,000 sick and 2,000 dying a day was happening all day every day leading up to this already. It just wasn't labled COVID deaths.
Nah, an increase of over 700,000 deaths in year isn't nothing in the grand scheme of things. That's roughly a 25% increase in people dying, from a single cause. And that's the floor, that's what we're seeing now before our health care system and other essential services are totally overwhelmed.

Imagine a scenario where a group of people randomly goes out and kills 2000 people a day, but they shoot and injure many times that as well, often targeting entire families or workplaces. There's no conceivable universe in which people go about their days as normal under those circumstances. We wouldn't be throwing our hands up and saying nothing can be done, and really, what's 2000 people a day in a country of 300 million?
 
Nah, an increase of over 700,000 deaths in year isn't nothing in the grand scheme of things. That's roughly a 25% increase in people dying, from a single cause. And that's the floor, that's what we're seeing now before our health care system and other essential services are totally overwhelmed.

Imagine a scenario where a group of people randomly goes out and kills 2000 people a day, but they shoot and injure many times that as well, often targeting entire families or workplaces. There's no conceivable universe in which people go about their days as normal under those circumstances. We wouldn't be throwing our hands up and saying nothing can be done, and really, what's 2000 people a day in a country of 300 million?

700,000 deaths is the floor? lol. Might as well stop right now because we are living on different planets.
 
700,000 deaths is the floor? lol. Might as well stop right now because we are living on different planets.
I mean, this is the reality we're in now after taking steps to mitigate, continuing these steps will lower it of course, but absent those steps you're kidding yourself if you don't think that number would be higher.
 
I mean, this is the reality we're in now after taking steps to mitigate, continuing these steps will lower it of course, but absent those steps you're kidding yourself if you don't think that number would be higher.

Yes agreed, would for sure be higher, but I do not believe for one second we'd hit anywhere close to the projections unless we went back to the stone ages, and a majority of the population we weren't able to work from home, wash their hands, use hand sanitizer, obtain face masks etc ..... I think it seems borderline fact that COVID is no where near as dangerous as everyone first thought.
 
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