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And by the way, I’m so bad at putting myself in others shoes, it’s why I’m sending $300 cash to the mom of my ex-student whose father died from Covid. I suck at life and can’t empathize.
 
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Wes Mantooth said:
So the delivery people are so educated and skilled but just choose to live the Will Hunting life to buck the system?
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Sorry, I think your intentions come from a good place and you are a nice dude. However, I hope you also realize you are making lots of assumptions based on some people you have met. Yeah, some made wrong decissions. But there are many who were forced to do those jobs you consider low skilled (desease or disability, lack of working permit, unemployment, language skills, debt, etc). We are not in position to judge anyone unless we know them personally (like your brother in law). My own father -many years ago- at some point had two jobs, one delivering newspaper, to pay my college.

On the other hand, I don't get how this became a political liberal vs conservative thing. It's about values and how we see others.

Anyway, keep supporting your local community and continue the good deeds.
 
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Wes Mantooth said:
You keep lumping all service jobs together. That’s hysterical.
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When I was just out of boot camp and living on the training base people would order pizza occasionally. There were a few delivery drivers who were also RDCs (Navy version of drill instructors). The kids just out of boot camp got a good laugh out of having their former RDC delivering their pizza.

Anyway, it might be a second job for someone, might be whatever. When I was between jobs I eventually swallowed my pride and worked as a security guard at a mall.

Nobody needs extra sympathy. I think just basic respect and not prejudging them is enough.

EDIT: Honestly sorry for the pile-on Wes.

It wasn't as much the "poor life choices" statement that got under my skin but the description of how much "work" went into getting your delivery to you. In my working life I have NEVER seen pay directly correlate with how much "work" or especially how much effort a person has to do.

The delivery driver is providing a service. Your tip should represent how much you value that service and how much you value that service being done well vs poorly. I like the tipping system because at places I frequent I get treated better than average because I tip better than average (especially for Utah). It is well worth it to me. I like to reward the people who provide exceptional service and encourage people capable of providing that level of service to work in those jobs vs having walmart level service at my favorite restaurant.
 
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Tipping culture is so dumb anyway. They get paid $2/hr to deal with us. And many of us suuuuck. You should tip if you get decent service regardless. Not doing so turns their position into servitude, not service.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Tipping culture is so dumb anyway. They get paid $2/hr to deal with us. And many of us suuuuck. You should tip if you get decent service regardless. Not doing so turns their position into servitude, not service.


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Honestly I basically always tip 20 percent. Service sucked? 20 percent. Service was great? 20 percent.

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