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I absolutely put my money on us having over 1000 new positive tests multiple days in June.
 
Today’s death count, 373, is the lowest since March 26th. Now, obviously you can say that the reporting is always less on the weekends, and that’s true. But consider that since March 26th there have been 21 other weekend days, none of which that low. The bad news is that’s still a big number, and that there are still new cases. However, we were talking about 2-3k per day being a “new normal” indefinitely. We’ve never hit 3k and we haven’t hit 2k in over a month. Our one-week average for the past week is 862 per day. The CDC has come out saying the new estimated mortality rate is 0.4% or less. And I’m pretty sure Fauci hasn’t been seen in two weeks.

Yes, I get that it could/should be better, but our reality is much better than where we assumed we’d be two months ago, one month ago, or even two weeks ago. Perhaps ask yourself where you think we will be in a month, then ask yourself if it’s a good or bad thing if we come in significantly under that.

But, I get it. Glass half empty and all.
 
infection said:
Today’s death count, 373, is the lowest since March 26th. Now, obviously you can say that the reporting is always less on the weekends, and that’s true. But consider that since March 26th there have been 21 other weekend days, none of which that low. The bad news is that’s still a big number, and that there are still new cases. However, we were talking about 2-3k per day being a “new normal” indefinitely. We’ve never hit 3k and we haven’t hit 2k in over a month. Our one-week average for the past week is 862 per day. The CDC has come out saying the new estimated mortality rate is 0.4% or less. And I’m pretty sure Fauci hasn’t been seen in two weeks.

Yes, I get that it could/should be better, but our reality is much better than where we assumed we’d be two months ago, one month ago, or even two weeks ago. Perhaps ask yourself where you think we will be in a month, then ask yourself if it’s a good or bad thing if we come in significantly under that.

But, I get it. Glass half empty and all.
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I'm interested to see how this ages.
 
Gameface said:
I'm interested to see how this ages.
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I’m not certain what age has to do with it. I’m not declaring it over, though this has gotten so polarized that taking an optimistic view is conflated with some kind of denial. I’m stating that, as of now, and for a while, we’ve seen a pretty sizable disparity between where we are and where we’ve thought we’d be.
 
masks are so overrated for general use. The overwhelming transmission has been from being in enclosed close confines with others for prolonged periods of time, and touching your face with your hands. Wearing masks for specific closed confined exposure to people sure but people walking around in public with a mask thinking that's going to stop them getting it is a little useless.
 
Douchebag K said:
Wearing masks for specific closed confined exposure to people sure but people walking around in public with a mask thinking that's going to stop them getting it is a little useless.
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I have no idea what the efficacy of the mask actually is, but, it’s been explained often enough that the mask is not protection for the person wearing it, but rather protection for others, should the mask wearer be asymptomatic, and able to spread it through sneezing, coughing, or even talking. If I’m wearing a mask, and everyone near me is not, I can’t expect to be protected, but they will be to some degree more protected from me. Sort of a one for all, all for one approach where masks are concerned, if they are going to help stop the spread at all.
 
Douchebag K said:
masks are so overrated for general use. The overwhelming transmission has been from being in enclosed close confines with others for prolonged periods of time, and touching your face with your hands. Wearing masks for specific closed confined exposure to people sure but people walking around in public with a mask thinking that's going to stop them getting it is a little useless.
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Sure. But wearing a mask certainly doesn't make the spreading of the virus worse and wearing a mask for a short time while going into a public place is pretty easy so we should just do it anyway.

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fishonjazz said:
Sure. But wearing a mask certainly doesn't make the spreading of the virus worse and wearing a mask for a short time while going into a public place is pretty easy so we should just do it anyway.

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Except there is a school of thought that it can cause you to touch your face more, thereby helping to enable transmission more.

I can’t believe the WHO haven’t had a succinct clear researched policy on masks prior to this.
 
Douchebag K said:
masks are so overrated for general use. The overwhelming transmission has been from being in enclosed close confines with others for prolonged periods of time, and touching your face with your hands. Wearing masks for specific closed confined exposure to people sure but people walking around in public with a mask thinking that's going to stop them getting it is a little useless.
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I think the science backs up your assertion. I'm still wearing a mask if I have to be around anyone for any length of time. We have been asked to wear them around the office, which I do (although most do not). And I wear one to the grocery store because way too many people get too close. But I'm taking as much care as possible to ensure that I stay away from people as I'm in a high risk category. And I've decided to quit freaking out about what other people choose to do.
 
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