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even the long term effects one is weird to me. I mean I ate at arbys today. Maybe in ten years that french dip will give me autism so I shouldn't have eaten.
Yesterday I put neosporin on a scratch that my cat gave me. Maybe that neosporin will kill me in 8 years. I have seen any studies proving that it wont.
People literally smoke 2 packs of cigarettes per day and drink a bunch of beers but wont get the vaccine cause they worry about long term effects lol.
anything and everything that anyone consumes could possibly have some kind of long term adverse effect. There is no way to know. Hell, the air that you breathe when you go outside might be killing you. Probably should stop breathing, eating, drinking, getting tattoos etc. Really anything at all that you do to your body could have long term effects.
FalseFlagg K
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eating out anywhere in the United States is definitely going to kill you lol As will the taste of your "coffee"
No. Kids in Louisiana are just as resistant to SARS-CoV-2 as kids in Utah. Here are the official coronavirus statistics in Louisiana from the Louisiana Department of Health coronavirus data dashboard.
There have been 11,918 coronavirus deaths in Louisiana, but only 10 deaths among those under the age of 18. In Louisiana adults account for 99.92% of all coronavirus deaths while Louisiana kids make up 0.08% of coronavirus deaths. If kids in Louisiana are about to enter a 3rd year of disrupted education, it won’t be because of SARS-CoV-2 or vaccine hesitancy. It will be because the Louisiana government made the decision to disrupt the education. It will be because Louisiana leaders are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of the children in their districts for their own personal political gain of maintaining this false image of keeping everyone safe.
Is this data from the beginning of the pandemic, or specifically delta?
Because delta has a significantly higher rate of infection in kids. Look at Florida’s numbers by age. Delta is hitting young unvaxxed hard.
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What long term effects? Why do people think this would have long-term effects? A vaccine doesn’t change anything. All it does is trigger a response from the immune system to attack specific viruses. I don’t understand why people think it blows up hearts, brains, and changes DNA. That’s… not how vaccines work.
Research clearly shows long-term (and short-term) effects from covid are far worse.
FalseFlagg K
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That’s a rather sweeping and non specific statement
Does it need to be? Information on the subject is quite pervasive. Unless you have a vaccine allergy or medical history with Guillan-Barre, the vaccine is a no-brainer except for those without brains.
I've been very specific in other posts. Besides death, lung damage, stroke risk (wife has had multiple patients eith covid related strokes which led to loss of language/aphasia and lack of mobility) brain damage, etc.
Everything You Need to Know About Vaccinations
It’s important that as many people as possible get vaccinated. When enough people are vaccinated, it helps protect society and creates herd immunity.
www.healthline.com
www.nationalgeographic.com
Vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting the shot
https://www.usnews.com › articles
How to Talk to Someone Who's Hesitant to Get the COVID-19 Vaccine - USNews.com
Al-O-Meter
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The chart worth particular attention in your linked PDF is on page 8.
Since the pandemic began, in Florida there have been 42,252 COVID deaths. Of that number, only 11 of them are among those aged under 16. That means over 99.97% of COVID deaths in Florida are among those aged 16 and over. Less than 0.003% of COVID deaths are from the under-16 demographic. Florida was even nice enough to calculate the COVID mortality per 100k population in the last column. You can see it is 0.3 per 100k.
Now take a look at the Influenza mortality per 100k population from the 2018-2019 flu season.
I want to be absolutely clear that I am not saying SARS-CoV-2 is just like the Flu or just like the common cold. It clearly is not. That said, a kid who catches COVID today is statistically safer than a kid who caught influenza during the 2018-2019 flu season. The kids are safe. Kids are in no more danger today than they've ever been. They aren't immune to COVID. They can still catch it but it is like catching a cold. They get it. They get over it. They then have at least some immunity to it. This pandemic isn't about kids.
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I completely respect your opinion. I know you have kids just like I do. As for the adult educators, administrators, and support staff, that is why I’m so pro-vaccine. The mortality statistics for those fully vaccinated and younger than retirement age are pretty good.
I don't even want to imagine that as a hypothetical. I'll just point out that in Utah, the number of 14-and-under kids isn't 10. It is 1. For the entire pandemic there has been only 1 kid under the age of 15 who has died. I linked the haunting chart in this thread a couple pages back and you can see the one young kid. I want nothing but the best for both of our kids and for all other kids too.
The scary thing are the side effects which can linger. I haven't seen any studies that break out the % of kids/adults that have severe long-term effects from covid. And while it is clear the vaccine helps lessen side effects, how much is not fully understood at this stage.The chart worth particular attention in your linked PDF is on page 8.
Since the pandemic began, in Florida there have been 42,252 COVID deaths. Of that number, only 11 of them are among those aged under 16. That means over 99.97% of COVID deaths in Florida are among those aged 16 and over. Less than 0.003% of COVID deaths are from the under-16 demographic. Florida was even nice enough to calculate the COVID mortality per 100k population in the last column. You can see it is 0.3 per 100k.
Now take a look at the Influenza mortality per 100k population from the 2018-2019 flu season.
I want to be absolutely clear that I am not saying SARS-CoV-2 is just like the Flu or just like the common cold. It clearly is not. That said, a kid who catches COVID today is statistically safer than a kid who caught influenza during the 2018-2019 flu season. The kids are safe. Kids are in no more danger today than they've ever been. They aren't immune to COVID. They can still catch it but it is like catching a cold. They get it. They get over it. They then have at least some immunity to it. This pandemic isn't about kids.
Kids are having very different experiences tham non-pandemic kids. It is affecting their learning, social interaction and more. We've done everything to weigh our kids mental and physical health as we navigate through this crap. Part of the situatiin with fewer kids getting sick is many parents were isolating their kids, or they have been in protected environments. Delta is infecting everyone, including kids at a much higher rate. Children are going to the hospital for covid now more than ever.