Coronavirus

[Deleted member 365]

This is a good thing to keep In mind. Most Americans support masks and vaccinations. Most care about the collective good. Yes, there are some anti intellectual Trumpers out there screaming about freedom and comparing masking to the Holocaust at school board meetings. But they’re in the minority.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The county which Trump held his rally in had declared shortly before the rally a state of emergency. I bet last night is going to really help things.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Donald Trump booed at Alabama rally after encouraging his supporters to get vaccinated against COVID-19, video shows

At the "Save America" rally in Cullman, Alabama, former President Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to "take the vaccines."

www.yahoo.com

Good job trump for encouraging your flock to get vaccinated at a really.
Not so good job by trump of getting military advise from a 5 year old and thinking it means something.

He got booed saying it. Which means he’s never going to say it again. They’ve been fed anti intellectualism and anger at the majority for so long, that not even their god can convince them to take covid seriously and to get vaccinated.

I think Frankenstein has lost control of his monster.

 

[Red]

Headline more or less gives away the argument. Personally, I have found myself speculating that much of the backlash against both the vaccination, and the masking, is from a large swath of America that simply does not like the America they see, be it though glasses darkly, or not. These are people who have no intention of doing anything to help an America they have come to hate and feel alienated from. It’s as if so many of these people must be thinking “not my United States. Screw these liberals. They can rot in Hell before I lift a finger to help my enemy”.

Some Americans No Longer Believe in the Common Good

They now are thinking only of themselves.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[jazzVA]

He got booed saying it. Which means he’s never going to say it again. They’ve been fed anti intellectualism and anger at the majority for so long, that not even their god can convince them to take covid seriously and to get vaccinated.

I think Frankenstein has lost control of his monster.

“I think Frankenstein has lost control of his monster.” — That’s what I said about the GOP in 2016.

 

[Deleted member 365]

“I think Frankenstein has lost control of his monster.” — That’s what I said about the GOP in 2016.

And you were damn right. Now, how do we kill the monster or contain it before it destroys American democracy?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

We don’t have weekly death rates for kids, but we will.

I know you think that but why? Why do you think there will be weekly death rates for kids?

Is it because you see a rise in case rate, remember that similar rises have been proceeded by a rise in the death statistics among adults, and think that must translate exactly the same to children? It doesn’t in the data I've seen. I’ve shown you all the data. Your own sources show you the data. This virus does not have the same effect on children as it does on middle aged adults.

We have data on COVID and on the Delta variant. We don’t have to read only to page 6, ignore the data on page 8, and instead conjure a fantasy of weekly death rates in the future. We have a window on the future in the data out of the UK. They got hit by the Delta variant 60 days before we did. The Delta wave peaked and burned out without ever spiking the mortality rate in children, who just like US children are not vaccinated.

Covid: Children's extremely low risk confirmed by study

The overall risk of death is around two in a million children, scientists looking at England's data estimate.

www.bbc.com

I've shown statistically that child COVID mortality (including Delta variant) isn't a thing in Utah, Louisiana, Florida, and the UK. Case counts can rise and fall but there is seemingly no trailing rise in the childhood death statistic like there is with the rates in the adult demographics. It is possible I've missed something, so please tell me why you believe we will have weekly death rates for kids.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I’ve often wondered if part of the problem with the public not recognizing the dire situation of the pandemic is because the media does such a piss poor job of putting our country in perspective with others. I mean look at this, this is embarrassing:


Yet, red state governors still force school districts to go to school unsafely. They don’t want to give districts and localities the ability to protect themselves. They Sadly, I think the only way these idiots are going to learn is to see massive suffering and death in their states. As this poll tends to show:



Trump states are learning… they’re coming around to the vaccine. It’s too bad that it’s going to cost them a lot more lives than we needed.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Duh.

yeah despite agree with some of what they were protesting that was really dumb Not helpful

 

[Deleted member 365]

Live and let live, right anti mask/vaxxers?



**** all of these people. **** them all

 

[Avery]

After reading up on it a bit more, I do think the Pfizer approval will help get some more shots in arms as it sounds like businesses that require vaccination will now have more legal air cover to require it.

I'd still maintain that I don't think anyone that refused to get it before and doesn't have to is still going to be on the sideways, but for those who work for an employer who requires it and losing a good job isn't worth the personal disagreement, it will help.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

I know you think that but why? Why do you think there will be weekly death rates for kids?

Is it because you see a rise in case rate, remember that similar rises have been proceeded by a rise in the death statistics among adults, and think that must translate exactly the same to children? It doesn’t in the data I've seen. I’ve shown you all the data. Your own sources show you the data. This virus does not have the same effect on children as it does on middle aged adults.

We have data on COVID and on the Delta variant. We don’t have to read only to page 6, ignore the data on page 8, and instead conjure a fantasy of weekly death rates in the future. We have a window on the future in the data out of the UK. They got hit by the Delta variant 60 days before we did. The Delta wave peaked and burned out without ever spiking the mortality rate in children, who just like US children are not vaccinated.

Covid: Children's extremely low risk confirmed by study

The overall risk of death is around two in a million children, scientists looking at England's data estimate.

www.bbc.com

I've shown statistically that child COVID mortality (including Delta variant) isn't a thing in Utah, Louisiana, Florida, and the UK. Case counts can rise and fall but there is seemingly no trailing rise in the childhood death statistic like there is with the rates in the adult demographics. It is possible I've missed something, so please tell me why you believe we will have weekly death rates for kids.

Increase in cases will result in an increase in deaths. Listening to doctors in the current hot spots have been telling us over and over this variant is affecting children at a higher rate. Why does death rate have to be the bar? The virus leaves many with long term issues, parents have sit and wait to see if their kids is going to come out ok, and its affecting families and our health care system and workers. The data I presented shows the increase in cases among the young unvaxxed. Just because death rates haven't spiked or its still not as deadly to young people as it is for olds, doesn't mean the virus is not impacting young people at a greater rate. Yes, their not dying at a huge rate, but all the other affects are having an impact across multiple spectrums. I'm going to post this video again in case you missed it.