Court: California gay marriage ban is unconstitutional
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kwb
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My bad. I just reread it and I retract my post. Was in a hurry when I read it. I apologize.
Changing laws will not deny people the ability to exercise their own free will. They can still make whatever choices they want, it just will not be recognized by the government as marriage.
God makes laws and people are free to obey them or not obey them. If you disobey the law you are not able to receive the blessing and you are also open to any consequence that is attached to that law. You are still free to choose.
The law is a line drawn in the sand. People are still free to cross that line.
There is no forcing everyone to live right, it is just a standard that should be set.
Make the choice, but don't cry about the results.
People just want God to change where that line is drawn.
God will not change that, but people sure can attempt to get their government to change where they draw that line, and that is what is happening.
I am ok with that.
On a side note I think defending marriage is a very noble goal. I just think requiring marriage classes and gettign rid of drunken strip weddings as a better way of doing that.
Those ideas could help as well. Of course anyone that doesn't want to get anything out of a marriage class will not. I'm with you wholeheartedly on the drunken strip weddings.
I had better get some work done today.
We have made it this far so why start working now?
True but I am hoping that it would weed out a few more of the people that really should not be getting married.
Government shouldn't be in the marriage business. They should be in the contract enforcement business. Marriage is nothing more than a contract as far as the government is concerned. The government doesn't give sanction to marriage as a spiritual bond.
Government is currently in the homosexual relationship regulation business. I want them out!
PearlWatson
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That hasn't been your position to this point in the thread.
The pursuit of this overturning of prop 8 will just lead to replacing the state government with the federal government as the relationship regulators for all. It will lead to the exact opposite of what you just stated you wanted. Currently homosexuals can pursue a "spiritual bond" marriage all they wish. That doesn't seem to be enough for them. They still insist that a state that doesn't want to be involved in their relationship must be involved, and now the feds will take over state rights to regulate marriage and push President Santorum to pursue a constitutional amendment.
Government gives sanction (<--TAXES) to marriage as an environment for raising new citizens that will pay your social security.
I don't value state government getting involved in social matters any more than I value the federal government getting involved. The federal government SHOULD override state governments when the states attempt to violate individual rights. That's what a ban on gay marriage is, a violation of individual rights. I think individuals should be able to associate with one another in any consensual way they choose, provided all parties are legally able to consent.
I don't think there should be tax breaks for marriage, or any other behavior. Taxes shouldn't be used to promote favorable behavior, or to discourage unfavorable behavior. That's not what I want my government doing. As it stands, however, married people do get preferential treatment in several ways. That only makes it even more unacceptable that all people aren't able to gain those benefits.
You mean like smoking, gambling, drinking, eating junkfood, etc.
lol