Court: California gay marriage ban is unconstitutional

[Jazz Spazz]

You mean like smoking, gambling, drinking, eating junkfood, etc.

You forgot driving.

 

[PearlWatson]

I don't value state government getting involved in social matters any more than I value the federal government getting involved. The federal government SHOULD override state governments when the states attempt to violate individual rights. That's what a ban on gay marriage is, a violation of individual rights. I think individuals should be able to associate with one another in any consensual way they choose, provided all parties are legally able to consent.

I don't think there should be tax breaks for marriage, or any other behavior. Taxes shouldn't be used to promote favorable behavior, or to discourage unfavorable behavior. That's not what I want my government doing. As it stands, however, married people do get preferential treatment in several ways. That only makes it even more unacceptable that all people aren't able to gain those benefits.

Now you want government involved in "homosexual relationship regulation" again.

There is no such "individual" right to get any relationship recognized as marriage by government.

Marriage has always been restricted to one man and one woman. How has this suddenly become "unconstitutional?"

So homosexuals want the "preferential tax treatment" of being stay at home mommies? Makes sense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Water got on my circuits again.

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So can someone tell me what the ill-effects of two guys getting married are? To them or to anyone else? Let's throw out the idea that prayer and electro-shock can 'fix' someone's gayness too, please.

 

[Stoked]

Water got on my circuits again.

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So can someone tell me what the ill-effects of two guys getting married are? To them or to anyone else? Let's throw out the idea that prayer and electro-shock can 'fix' someone's gayness too, please.

I heard a lot of talk about the demise of the family and by proxy our American civilization.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I heard a lot of talk about the demise of the family and by proxy our American civilization.

That's theoretical/fear-mongering, without any actual explanation as to how we arrive at that end.

 

[Stoked]

That's theoretical/fear-mongering, without any actual explanation as to how we arrive at that end.

Yes and no depending on how you mean this. I think we are seeing the downfall of the family. That will have a crushing impact on our society from which it may not recover.

I do not think gays marrying is any way party to that downfall.

 

[Stoked]

Now F all this marriage, gay, religious, jazz and anything else talk. I'm out. Vegas baby!....

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yes and no depending on how you mean this. I think we are seeing the downfall of the family. That will have a crushing impact on our society from which it may not recover.

I do not think gays marrying is any way party to that downfall.

As I said earlier (as a joke) 'Fact: All civilizations that are now extinct had gay people, therefore, gay people sewed the seeds of their destruction'

Correlation =/= Cause

 

[Gameface]

Now you want government involved in "homosexual relationship regulation" again.

There is no such "individual" right to get any relationship recognized as marriage by government.

Marriage has always been restricted to one man and one woman. How has this suddenly become "unconstitutional?"

So homosexuals want the "preferential tax treatment" of being stay at home mommies? Makes sense.

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?

The right is to have the government not prohibit a specific type of consensual relationship. Rights, in my view, provide for a freedom of action by an individual. Rights do not provide goods or services to individuals. The government is the protector of our rights. In this case they are not only not protecting the rights of gay couples, they are prohibiting gay people from exercising their freedom to marry each other. I'd like them to stop.

 

[Gameface]

You mean like smoking, gambling, drinking, eating junkfood, etc.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

 

[Archie Moses]

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?.

Link?

 

[PearlWatson]

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?

The right is to have the government not prohibit a specific type of consensual relationship. Rights, in my view, provide for a freedom of action by an individual. Rights do not provide goods or services to individuals. The government is the protector of our rights. In this case they are not only not protecting the rights of gay couples, they are prohibiting gay people from exercising their freedom to marry each other. I'd like them to stop.

The government ain't prohibiting homosexual relationships.

Homosexuals can have a "spiritual bond" marriage all they want. Just like the Polygamists have "spirit" wives.