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LogGrad98 said:
How did Harvard or anyone else latch onto the idea that she was a minority in the first place? My work knows exactly nothing of my heritage, other than the fact that I am a white male. If she didn't bring it up at some point, who did? She does not have any outward appearance of native american ancestry. How did this even become a thing if she never mentioned it to anyone? And why would she mention having native american heritage at all when one ancestor that far back was native american, which makes me more hebrew than she is native american (a great great something grandmother was a jew, a few steps before Warren's native ancestor, so a larger proportion for me than for her). But I never submitted a recipe for a jewish cookbook or claimed to be jewish at all. So how did it get out, and why?
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It's because she did. People who are arguing otherwise are naive imo.
 
One Brow said:
She mentioned it after she was hired, and according to her, was looking for people with similar memories to share them with.
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I'm curious what kinds of memories one would have from a single 5X+ removed great-ancestor. Nothing I have read makes it sound like she lived in any way connected to the NA community, including directly from that community.
 
LogGrad98 said:
How did Harvard or anyone else latch onto the idea that she was a minority in the first place? My work knows exactly nothing of my heritage, other than the fact that I am a white male. If she didn't bring it up at some point, who did? She does not have any outward appearance of native american ancestry. How did this even become a thing if she never mentioned it to anyone? And why would she mention having native american heritage at all when one ancestor that far back was native american, which makes me more hebrew than she is native american (a great great something grandmother was a jew, a few steps before Warren's native ancestor, so a larger proportion for me than for her). But I never submitted a recipe for a jewish cookbook or claimed to be jewish at all. So how did it get out, and why?
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Her ****ing mom told her she had native American ancestry and she believed her ****ing mom.

Does it make sense to you yet? Or should I bust out the ****ing crayons?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I'm curious what kinds of memories one would have from a single 5X+ removed great-ancestor. Nothing I have read makes it sound like she lived in any way connected to the NA community, including directly from that community.
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She had no real knowledge of when or where her native American Ancestry came from. She believed her family stories...

Are you even being serious?
 
Bulletproof said:
Her ****ing mom told her she had native American ancestry and she believed her ****ing mom.

Does it make sense to you yet? Or should I bust out the ****ing crayons?
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In our family history book, it says that we're direct descendants from William Wallace. My dad used to mention it every now and then growing up and I'm sure Ive mentioned it to close friends or gfs at one point or another. That said, I would never bring it up to my employer or allow them to list that as something that makes me special. That's just comnecting my blood to one person in some minute, mildly interesting way (if it's even true.) I couldn't imagine claiming I was a minority without knowing how, like she did (unless, I was eight - see my avatar story) Is that not odd to you?

When I see her talk about it, it's like she's living romanticized family stories that touch a nerve with her more than actuality.
 
Bulletproof said:
She had no real knowledge of when or where her native American Ancestry came from. She believed her family stories...

Are you even being serious?
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Are you? The claim was she wanted to find people with whom she could share her native American memories. Do vague stories you may or may not remember correctly from when you were a child qualify as memories of your shared minority heritage?

So I wanted to know what those memories might be, since that was the claim.
 
Bulletproof said:
Her ****ing mom told her she had native American ancestry and she believed her ****ing mom.

Does it make sense to you yet? Or should I bust out the ****ing crayons?
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Let me write this in crayon for you since that seems to be your preferred medium. The claim I was responding to was that she did not tell anyone.about it, that she wasn't publicizing it. If she wasn't then how did anyone know?

Please try to keep up. You're better than this.
 
Archie Moses said:
In our family history book, it says that we're direct descendants from William Wallace. My dad used to mention it every now and then growing up and I'm sure Ive mentioned it to close friends or gfs at one point or another. That said, I would never bring it up to my employer or allow them to list that as something that makes me special. That's just comnecting my blood to one person in some minute, mildly interesting way (if it's even true.) I couldn't imagine claiming I was a minority without knowing how, like she did (unless, I was eight - see my avatar story) Is that not odd to you?

When I see her talk about it, it's like she's living romanticized family stories that touch a nerve with her more than actuality.
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according to my ancestry DNA i've got 25% scandinavian from an area well known for being a viking stronghold. So i talk **** to my mates about being a viking but even at that level i still think i'm full of crap to say that. For this woman to be waving around a DNA test that shows her native american ancestry to be at a background noise level as proof of winning some bet is cringeworthy and downright embarrassing. And Trump is an offensive tool to call her Pocahontas.
 
Bulletproof said:
She had no real knowledge of when or where her native American Ancestry came from. She believed her family stories...

Are you even being serious?
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I've decided this whole thing is entirely pointless. For whatever reason (I'll let you guess) some people have decided to infer the most cynical motives for Elizabeth Warren's sparse mentioning of her NOW CONFIRMED native ancestry.

Before she had the DNA test the talking point on the right was that she was making the whole thing up to gain some sort of advantage. Now that she has provided a DNA test which confirms she does in fact have some Indian ancestry the goalposts have shifted. Should she have been considered a minority in her faculty directory, no. Did she gain any advantage in work or politics from it? There's no reason to believe she did.

So what the **** are we even doing here? The bad faith from the right, as though they actually give a **** about being 'politically correct' or in such a thing as 'cultural appropriation', is reaching absurd levels.
 
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