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Dante Exum: The Future is Not Now

Regarding Exum I'm at the exact same point I was at the beginning of the season. There is a 50% he can be starter material and 50% chance he still busts.
I could maybe up it to 55/45 due to the playoffs, but that is a tiny sample size compared to his poor regular season.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Probably nothing if you just check box scores and dont watch games.
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I watch games. Granted, maybe not as many as I used too ( being business owner takes a lot of time away:(). But honestly, occasional spark of potential does not get me excited about the guy who was picked 5th based on crazy hype but is is way behind guys like Smart or Payton. Maybe he will be a late bloomer and will surprise us all but I have my serious doubts about him.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
Exum has played over 3,000 minutes in the NBA and you're saying the Jazz and the fans don't have patience? Seems we have plenty, probably too much. Here's every player in NBA history that played more than 3,000 minutes and put up similarly crappy stats as Exum:

https://bkref.com/tiny/V5s4v

He's almost certainly a bust, and he will get yet another chance next season.
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So dumb.

1st year - Played every game as a 19yr old rookie out of Aus High School. Did great and was a big part of a post All-star run that provided one of the best defenses in Jazz history.

2nd year - ACL (out/unable to do work in offseason)

3rd year - Recovering from ACL (again unable to do work in the offseason + confidence issues + Quin/DL being super cautious with him)

We haven't seen anything close to Dante's potential as yet.
 
MVP said:
I watch games. Granted, maybe not as many as I used too ( being business owner takes a lot of time away:(). But honestly, occasional spark of potential does not get me excited about the guy who was picked 5th based on crazy hype but is is way behind guys like Smart or Payton. Maybe he will be a late bloomer and will surprise us all but I have my serious doubts about him.
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Did you watch the GS Jazz final game? Or are you just reading the box score? He has been consistently helping the Jazz win since the all-star break statistically and from the eye test. The reason people are excited over that game is he took over for a few minutes against the best team in the NBA. They probably had let up since they had a big lead but still. For a few minutes he was the best player on the court. If he can start to have more and more of those and less and less down moments you have the makings for a star.

If you dont watch many Jazz games and just look at the box score you probably are not high on Exum or you just hate him cant get past disliking him for whatever reason.
 
Kyoto said:
how so? What has he shown that he deserves to start?
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I dont think the Jazz are mistreating him but he definitely showed he deserved more minutes in the playoffs and deserved more minutes or at least more consistent role post all-star this year.
 
Kyoto said:
You didn't prove it, honestly neto has been better than exum this season.


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Neto and Mack will never become all stars, they will be role players at best. Exum will become an all star if he reached his full potential. So the Jazz decided to Play the guys with less potential like Neto and Mack before Exum? Wtf has been the reason for Jazz doing this ? not only have the jazz robbed Exum's valuable learning time on the court, they also increased the chance of Exum leaving and play for another team.

The jazz won the 70% of their games when Exum was the starter in his first year. I can't see why see Exum can not be a starter once he has fully recovered from his nasty injury.
 
Dante has shown that he can guard 3 positions. So there's that. He'll continue to get better as he works on his body.
 
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-after-the-results-of-2017-nba-draft-lottery

Utah Makes a Tough Call
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Philadelphia 76ers Receive: PG/SG Dante Exum

Utah Jazz Receive: SG/SF Justin Anderson, No. 36 pick, 2018 second-round pick (via Clippers or New york Knicks)

Dante Exum doesn't seem like a happy camper.

"You can tell he's not happy with how the season went," the Desert News' Jody Genessy wrote of Exum's year-end media availability. "It felt like he was giving partial answers and holding back what he really felt."

Can we really blame him? Exum's injury woes have been compounded by an unpredictable place in the rotation. Head coach Quin Snyder had no problem this season turning to Shelvin Mack or Raul Neto before him.

There's no light at the end of the tunnel if the Jazz intend to re-sign George Hill. More minutes will be available at backup point guard once Mack, as expected, takes his talents elsewhere, but Exum is a restricted free agent next summer, and paying him is out of the question.

Utah will cannonball into the luxury tax if Hayward, Hill and Joe Ingles (restricted) are all back, and Derrick Favors and Rodney Hood (restricted) are both headed for free agency in 2018.

Things would change if Hayward left, and the Jazz send Hill and Ingles packing with him. Even then, Exum's looming payday isn't going away.

Getting out in front of what feels likes an unavoidable divorce is a good idea. Exum isn't going to hold a ton of value, so the Jazz should pounce at a trio of cost-controlled assets that include a defensive specialist like Anderson.

As for the Sixers, let's not pretend uniting Ben Simmons with a fellow Australian isn't the coolest idea ever. Exum isn't a spot-up weapon and must learn to play off other ball-dominators, but Philly has the bandwidth to test out another point guard as a super sub...........

Time to face it,and Snyder and Exum don't look like their made for each other.Snyder is slow down basketball and Exum is made for todays NBA ,throttle down .
 
tleikheen said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-after-the-results-of-2017-nba-draft-lottery

Utah Makes a Tough Call
10 of 10

Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images

Philadelphia 76ers Receive: PG/SG Dante Exum

Utah Jazz Receive: SG/SF Justin Anderson, No. 36 pick, 2018 second-round pick (via Clippers or New york Knicks)

Dante Exum doesn't seem like a happy camper.

"You can tell he's not happy with how the season went," the Desert News' Jody Genessy wrote of Exum's year-end media availability. "It felt like he was giving partial answers and holding back what he really felt."

Can we really blame him? Exum's injury woes have been compounded by an unpredictable place in the rotation. Head coach Quin Snyder had no problem this season turning to Shelvin Mack or Raul Neto before him.

There's no light at the end of the tunnel if the Jazz intend to re-sign George Hill. More minutes will be available at backup point guard once Mack, as expected, takes his talents elsewhere, but Exum is a restricted free agent next summer, and paying him is out of the question.

Utah will cannonball into the luxury tax if Hayward, Hill and Joe Ingles (restricted) are all back, and Derrick Favors and Rodney Hood (restricted) are both headed for free agency in 2018.

Things would change if Hayward left, and the Jazz send Hill and Ingles packing with him. Even then, Exum's looming payday isn't going away.

Getting out in front of what feels likes an unavoidable divorce is a good idea. Exum isn't going to hold a ton of value, so the Jazz should pounce at a trio of cost-controlled assets that include a defensive specialist like Anderson.

As for the Sixers, let's not pretend uniting Ben Simmons with a fellow Australian isn't the coolest idea ever. Exum isn't a spot-up weapon and must learn to play off other ball-dominators, but Philly has the bandwidth to test out another point guard as a super sub...........

Time to face it,and Snyder and Exum don't look like their made for each other.Snyder is slow down basketball and Exum is made for todays NBA ,throttle down .
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I hate this post
 
elan_prodigy said:
1st year - Played every game as a 19yr old rookie out of Aus High School. Did great and was a big part of a post All-star run that provided one of the best defenses in Jazz history.

2nd year - ACL (out/unable to do work in offseason)

3rd year - Recovering from ACL (again unable to do work in the offseason + confidence issues + Quin/DL being super cautious with him)

We haven't seen anything close to Dante's potential as yet.
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This sums up the situation exactly. In his rookie year he didn't play well but did we really expect him too at his age with his lack of experience? I didn't. Nobody really should have. Since then he hasn't had a consistent role or consistent minutes. Hopefully next year that changes because I still believe in Dante. We've seen flashes of great basketball from him. He just needs consistent minutes in my opinion.
 
fishonjazz said:
I hate this post
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Me too. That would be a terrible trade.

Edit; Most of the trades in that article were terrible. Why would Brooklyn trade 22 and 27 for 17 in a deep draft? I was shaking my head throughout most of the article.
 
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tleikheen said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-after-the-results-of-2017-nba-draft-lottery

Utah Makes a Tough Call
10 of 10

Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images

Philadelphia 76ers Receive: PG/SG Dante Exum

Utah Jazz Receive: SG/SF Justin Anderson, No. 36 pick, 2018 second-round pick (via Clippers or New york Knicks)

Dante Exum doesn't seem like a happy camper.

"You can tell he's not happy with how the season went," the Desert News' Jody Genessy wrote of Exum's year-end media availability. "It felt like he was giving partial answers and holding back what he really felt."

Can we really blame him? Exum's injury woes have been compounded by an unpredictable place in the rotation. Head coach Quin Snyder had no problem this season turning to Shelvin Mack or Raul Neto before him.

There's no light at the end of the tunnel if the Jazz intend to re-sign George Hill. More minutes will be available at backup point guard once Mack, as expected, takes his talents elsewhere, but Exum is a restricted free agent next summer, and paying him is out of the question.

Utah will cannonball into the luxury tax if Hayward, Hill and Joe Ingles (restricted) are all back, and Derrick Favors and Rodney Hood (restricted) are both headed for free agency in 2018.

Things would change if Hayward left, and the Jazz send Hill and Ingles packing with him. Even then, Exum's looming payday isn't going away.

Getting out in front of what feels likes an unavoidable divorce is a good idea. Exum isn't going to hold a ton of value, so the Jazz should pounce at a trio of cost-controlled assets that include a defensive specialist like Anderson.

As for the Sixers, let's not pretend uniting Ben Simmons with a fellow Australian isn't the coolest idea ever. Exum isn't a spot-up weapon and must learn to play off other ball-dominators, but Philly has the bandwidth to test out another point guard as a super sub...........

Time to face it,and Snyder and Exum don't look like their made for each other.Snyder is slow down basketball and Exum is made for todays NBA ,throttle down .
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Reasonable trade, probably fair for both sides. I'd be tempted to do this trade as Utah, though I would fear the public backlash as it's basically admitting you ****ed up the 5th overall draft pick. Justin Anderson is a good defender in theory (no idea if has been in the NBA). If he could shoot I would be way more positive on this proposal.

No idea why the Sixers would want Exum as a PG other than he is friends with Ben Simmons. He doesnt fit that team at all.
 
No idea why the Sixers would want Exum as a PG other than he is friends with Ben Simmons. He doesnt fit that team at all.
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Any team that would push the ball up court would be a great fit for Exum.Simmons and Saric are great passers and pointing out that ,
other than he is friends with Ben Simmons.
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is total over simplification since these two grew up playing together from a young age and probably know each others games better than any one.Both like to push the ball and would make a great two man fast break as soon as Exum can shake the rust off himself from NEVER running fastbreaks in Snyder's offense.
 
tleikheen said:
Any team that would push the ball up court would be a great fit for Exum.Simmons and Saric are great passers and pointing out that , is total over simplification since these two grew up playing and probably know each others games better than any one.Both like to push the ball and would make a great two man fast break as soon as Exum can shake the rust off himself from NEVER running fastbreaks in Snyder's offense.
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He would be awful in Philly.
 
What I liked the most from that last game was Dante's emotion and aggression. He seemed like he wanted to be out on the floor and wanted the ball. A PG needs to be an alpha male. I never thought Dante was that until I saw those flashes from that last game. If he wants the ****ing rock next year then we need to give him the chance to either sink or swim.
 
The Thriller said:
What I liked the most from that last game was Dante's emotion and aggression. He seemed like he wanted to be out on the floor and wanted the ball. A PG needs to be an alpha male. I never thought Dante was that until I saw those flashes from that last game. If he wants the ****ing rock next year then we need to give him the chance to either sink or swim.
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This. I think how Utah envisions Exum and how Exum incisions Exum are two different things.

Utah sees Exum as a three and D SG.

Exum sees Exum as a John Wall/Russell Westbrook type player.

If I'm in Exum's ear, I tell him that Utah has ****ed up your development so far, trying to turn him into something he's not (which for whatever reason Utah likes to do. Millsap is not a SF. AK was not a SF. Burks is not a PG). I tell him that when you are on the floor, play your game. Do what you do. Screw Utah.

If he does that and plays well, Utah will be forced to change or trade you.

It's shameful that Utah tanked three years for Exum and then he hardly ever sees the court.
 
If I'm in Exum's ear, I tell him that Utah has ****ed up your development so far, trying to turn him into something he's not (which for whatever reason Utah likes to do. Millsap is not a SF. AK was not a SF. Burks is not a PG). I tell him that when you are on the floor, play your game. Do what you do. Screw Utah.

If he does that and plays well, Utah will be forced to change or trade you.
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I bet you he hears that from his buddy in Philadelphia as well.Exum wants the ball and wants to attack .That was seen when he was the PG against Golden State 1st half, SNYDER SAW THAT and immediately gave the ball back to Mack start of the 2nd half and the rout was back on .
I bet that fuels Exum all summer what Snyder did and not in a positive way.I hope it ain't so but Exum working on his body and handle to get away from Utah could be his fuel this summer.
 
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