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Darft Jimmer Fredette.

Just because you can shoot and play PG it doesn't mean you're a SG. Jimmer is a PG and will play PG at the next level. There have been plenty of scoring PG's in the league.
 
gregbroncs said:
Jimmer is an NBA late 1st round pick and I wish him well in the NBA.

I do not want a smallish, slowish SG in a PG's body on the Jazz however. He is too slow to be a great PG in the NBA and does not have the handle to make up for it (ala Deron). He's too short to be a great SG and not athletic enough to make up for it (ala Price). The guy can flat out shoot and that alone will give him a shot at sticking in the NBA though. I'm just not that fond of smallish SG's and that's where I believe he's going to have to play in the NBA.

Kind of the same way I always felt about Andre Miller except for different reason's. Miller had the size and athleticism I just did not want a PG that could not shoot playing for the Jazz.
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Have you watched him this year? He's not a SG. He was early on in College, but hasn't been since his sophomore year. He's made himself into a PG this year.
 
JazzSpazz said:
I believe someone covered this in another thread.
Jimmer will go in the 1st round, and we don't have a 1st round pick.

The End.
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I can't find anywhere online that we don't have a 1st round pick this year. I'm pretty sure the 1st we traded away for Jefferson was last year...
 
Betzza said:
I can't find anywhere online that we don't have a 1st round pick this year. I'm pretty sure the 1st we traded away for Jefferson was last year...
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How do you trade a draft pick after the draft? Please send whatever drugs you're on to:

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Thanks.
 
David Stern said:
Have you watched him this year? He's not a SG. He was early on in College, but hasn't been since his sophomore year. He's made himself into a PG this year.
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He's a great PG in college. But as VSlice said he is a scoring PG and that is not what the Jazz require to run their team. They need PG's who can score and shoot but also can run an offense. Price's biggest problem as a PG for Utah is that he can't run an offense and Jimmer would have some of the same problems. Especially since I don't believe he is fast enough or good enough with the ball to get by most NBA starting PG's. He can shoot, I have acknowledged that. That is just not the most important skill for a PG in the Jazz's system.
 
David Stern said:
I can understand some of your points, but he can get his shot off against ANYONE. I mean, just look at his elevation and tell me that he won't be able to at least shoot in the NBA.
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I don't see that as NBA caliber elevation. That's why I brought up Price. He could jump over just about anyone in college too. These things have a way of being muted the day the player steps on NBA hardwood. Price has NBA caliber hops. Fredette isn't close to Price.
 
I think Jimmer has a little of Eddie House mixed in with a little Steve Nash. He's definitely a first round pick and will probably have a good NBA career.
 
gregbroncs said:
He's a great PG in college. But as VSlice said he is a scoring PG and that is not what the Jazz require to run their team. They need PG's who can score and shoot but also can run an offense. Price's biggest problem as a PG for Utah is that he can't run an offense and Jimmer would have some of the same problems. Especially since I don't believe he is fast enough or good enough with the ball to get by most NBA starting PG's. He can shoot, I have acknowledged that. That is just not the most important skill for a PG in the Jazz's system.
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Wasn't that a knock on D-Will. He's too chubby, and not quick enough to play the faster PG's. Was Stockton fast? I'm not saying he will be like either of them, but I'm saying it's possible to succeed with enough work ethic and willpower. His hops are enough, he creates space in a smart way, and he is a better passer than he gets credit for. He's not the best, but good enough at it. It also helps in the NBA to have 4 other people that are finishers, as opposed to what you get in the college game. I think Jimmer will be a good role player in the NBA.... but I also think with his drive, and that look in his eye... competitive nature... he has a shot of being something special even in the NBA.
 
So how do the Jazz not have a 1st round pick this year?
All the sites I've checked show they do.
If Memphis somehow makes the playoffs we get their first.
 
gesicht said:
So how do the Jazz not have a 1st round pick this year?
All the sites I've checked show they do.
If Memphis somehow makes the playoffs we get their first.
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You're forgetting about the Al Jefferson trade. As long as the Jazz finish above the bottom-16 teams in the league, Minnesota receives Utah's pick. In the unlikely event that doesn't happen, next year it becomes a lottery protected pick and protection continues to drop until 2014-15. The Grizzlies' pick (from the Ronnie Brewer trade) is Minnesota's as well. It's possible the Jazz won't have any picks as a protected 2nd-rounder was sent to Chicago in exchange for the Boozer Trade Exception.
 
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