Dear Fat People

[Siro]

A cultural shaming campaign would have been meaningless without the crippling legislations that followed through the tobacco campaign.


Either way, what you're missing is that obesity is fundamentally a health problem-- and not an image problem. Therein lies the difference. From a quick visual perspective, it is impossible to discern between someone who might have a decent amount of surface fat (but otherwise be completely healthy) to someone who is definitely obese. So, public shaming of obesity would moreso be an attack on all people who didn't satisfy the visual, arbitrary imagination of what our society deems as 'a healthy weight'.

Not only that, but an emphasis on tackling the issue of obesity through government & legislative change also has the propensity to tackle other chronic health issues that people suffer from even though they might not be obese! Plenty of non-obese individuals suffer from cancer, heart disease, and diabetes. How will shaming address these sicknesses?

Pretty convincing. Maybe this approach wouldn't really work for the problem of obesity.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Fully preventable? Not to millions of American families who are simply unable to live healthy lives, because their government is letting them down.

Wait, what? **** you Candadanain ******

 

[Dr. Jones]

Did Peeks just speak favourably with regards to government intervention? Pinch me, somebody.

Some is good, most is bad.. some of it is completely necessary.. and even that I disagree with. fatties gon do wut fatties gon do.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Some is good, most is bad.. some of it is completely necessary.. and even that I disagree with. fatties gon do wut fatties gon do.

Socialism will prevail! Come to the dark side Peeksbro. Oh, and let me raise the amount of taxes you need to pay while you come here

 

[Dr. Jones]

Socialism will prevail! Come to the dark side Peeksbro. Oh, and let me raise the amount of taxes you need to pay while you come here

Not a chance.

I prefer an organic growth over contrived ideals. Even if I were to start over, right now, penniless.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

I am surprised Clarkson is obese when celebrities have an easy access to clen, T3, and DNP.

Anyway here is an interesting video. I think it might have been posted here already but wasn't sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUmp67YDlHY

 

[fallenchicken]

Don't burn yourself on dis hot take

 

[TroutBum]

Fully preventable? Not to millions of American families who are simply unable to live healthy lives, because their government is letting them down.

Ugh, this statement makes me cringe. 9/10ths of those families CAN live healthy lives, but choose not to.

I am surprised Clarkson is obese when celebrities have an easy access to clen, T3, and DNP.

Anyway here is an interesting video. I think it might have been posted here already but wasn't sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUmp67YDlHY

I've seen that before and it hits home like a mother ****er. As a dad with daughters and fat genes on both sides of the family, I worry about this constantly.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

I don't know if many of you guys know this but our intestines have more neurons than rats have in their brain. We literally have a second brain in our gut. What is interesting is that this interaction of our gut with our microbiota is a key factor in obesity. After giving obese mice the microbiota of normal rats the obese mice have become skinny repeatedly in studies performed.

https://www.nature.com/ajgsup/journal/v1/n1/full/ajgsup20125a.html

Here is a pretty interesting review about it.

Also, our gut determines much of our testosterone levels. If you give women microbiota of men, women will produce much more testosterone. Some people think microbiota determines autism and other things. Pretty interesting.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Ugh, this statement makes me cringe. 9/10ths of those families CAN live healthy lives, but choose not to.

This statement really, really makes me cringe. So what is it then, Trout? Are the 90% lazy?

How come the lazy people of Europe aren't as consistently fat as their European counterparts?

I've seen that before and it hits home like a mother ****er. As a dad with daughters and fat genes on both sides of the family, I worry about this constantly.

There are 'fat genes' that biologically pre-determine someones obesity? News to me. Does America have more 'fat genes' than everyone else? Is that why they're all fat?

 

[TroutBum]

This statement really, really makes me cringe. So what is it then, Trout? Are the 90% lazy?

You're asking me to answer an unanswerable question. My opinion, however, is that 90% of them are able, but for whatever reason, are not willing.

How come the lazy people of Europe aren't as consistently fat as their European counterparts?

What?

There are 'fat genes' that biologically pre-determine someones obesity? News to me. Does America have more 'fat genes' than everyone else? Is that why they're all fat?

I'm not studying it in school like you are, but ya, I have always known about fat genes. My family is haunted with them. There is ONE non-morbidly obese girl on my dads side of the family, and I'm pretty sure it's only because she does meth on the regular. However, I thought I'd Google the whole fat gene thing... You may want to consider going to another university that isn't Canadian, that's all I'm saying.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/fat-genes-obesity-ucla-study-diet-exercise_n_2450108.html

https://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

Just off the first page.

 

[Deleted member 848]

You're asking me to answer an unanswerable question. My opinion, however, is that 90% of them are able, but for whatever reason, are not willing.

It's not unanswerable-- it's only unanswerable while maintaining to your approach to the issue. Your view of them simply 'not being willing' simply lacks perspective.

What?

If we are to assume that there's an equal distribution of 'lazy' people across the world, and laziness is the driving factor behind obesity, then every industrialized country in the world should have equal obesity rates. This is not the case.

I'm not studying it in school like you are, but ya, I have always known about fat genes. My family is haunted with them. There is ONE non-morbidly obese girl on my dads side of the family, and I'm pretty sure it's only because she does meth on the regular. However, I thought I'd Google the whole fat gene thing... You may want to consider going to another university that isn't Canadian, that's all I'm saying.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/fat-genes-obesity-ucla-study-diet-exercise_n_2450108.html

https://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

Just off the first page.

1) Note my use of the word 'predetermine'. Predetermine does not mean predispose.

2) Awww!! The links you posted just did my job for me! From the TIMES article:

“Thus far mutations in about eight genes are known to cause obesity in humans. But these mutations account for under five percent of the obesity in our society, and certainly are not, by themselves, responsible for the current obesity epidemic, since the mutation rate in these genes could not have changed dramatically during the past twenty years,” says Dr. Joseph Majzoub, the chief of the division of endocrinology at Boston Children’s Hospital and an author on the Science paper.