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Derek Chauvin Murder Trial

Eenie-Meenie said:
One further word about the police academies. Some of you might know from news reports that in these academies, officers are TRAINED to shoot to kill. That is when they pull their gun they are TRAINED to shoot in the area of largest mass, that is the chest. In other words at the heart, which obviously will kill someone. That needs to change.

The other thing about those stats I posted. They are from a website which I linked. But I have in the past checked these stats and they are correct. I need to emphasize that in the UK with a population of 60 million there are only 50-60 deaths caused by police annually compared to more than a 1,000 in the U.S. Why is that? Because most police there don't carry guns, they carry billy clubs. They also have much stricter gun control laws. It's the same in Japan. This is why their rates for deaths caused by law enforcement are so much lower. And there is less crime in those nations as well.

Of course they are different societies. Their cultures also aren't plagued by the extreme racism that exists here. We have a big problem and we need acknowledge it and do something about it.
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Racism exists everywhere. It is not an American invention. In the UK all you have to go to find it is at a soccer game. Japan is not exactly filled with other cultures or a diverse society but racism exists there too.
 
DasJazz said:
Also, your airway and trachea are in the front of your neck not the back. While kneeling on the back of the neck will be painful, it will not cut off the airway, hence this being a long standing method of subduing a perp with no deaths as a result.

Couple that with the fact that he was almost immediately saying he couldn't breathe (aĺl the while talking), establishes that he was going into cardiac arrest due to the drugs in his system as the scene unfolded.

Also, Chauvin knew he was being recorded and had a crowd of witnesses. There is no way that this LEO would have performed an act of any kind that would lead to death with literally all eyes on him.

This case, like many others these days is racially motivated and anti-cop. Hallmarks of the woke society.
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Wow!!! You some kind of doctor? Cops bring the negative by the fact that many of them never even try to deescalate the situation. To simple rationalize away that race is the issue and not the bad behavior of some cops is ridiculous.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I just reported this because you are harassing me, okay. I tried to explain why I was upset and while I admitted that I shouldn't have done that, neither should my PM been put on the board because it was private.
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A) I actually agree with your main points in this thread, the ones not about you, but about the thread topic.
B) I thought the 6 month ban was excessive, and am glad, although surprised, that it was backed down. I actually wouldn't have banned you at all, but I understand that there's no other tools in the moderator's toolbox.
C) That being said, despite what you think, there is no board rule against posting a message publicly. It may be gauche, but not illegal.
D) If you think my replies to you are harassment, you've got a mighty low bar.
 
Police blowing away 13 year old black kids, cool cool



And Andy Ngo lying about it? Shocking!!!

 
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a hung jury. It’s almost impossible to convict a police officer for killing someone. The political and racial issues of our country will be severely exacerbated too. I hope I’m wrong and justice is served. But OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony show that juries sometimes will hold firm to an opinion no matter what the evidence is.

I think deep down inside, most republicans hope for something like a hung jury. It would trigger protests we haven’t seen since last summer and completely change the focus from our great vaccine effort and Biden’s popular Infrastructure bill back to the culture war.
 
The Thriller said:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a hung jury. It’s almost impossible to convict a police officer for killing someone. The political and racial issues of our country will be severely exacerbated too. I hope I’m wrong and justice is served. But OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony show that juries sometimes will hold firm to an opinion no matter what the evidence is.

I think deep down inside, most republicans hope for something like a hung jury. It would trigger protests we haven’t seen since last summer and completely change the focus from our great vaccine effort and Biden’s popular Infrastructure bill back to the culture war.
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And it only takes one juror to get a hung jury. But, with the case the prosecution presented, and only needing to find that Chauvin’s actions were a “substantial contributing factor” to Floyd’s death, hard to believe how any juror would think he did not provide a substantial contributing factor.
 
The Thriller said:
Police blowing away 13 year old black kids, cool cool



And Andy Ngo lying about it? Shocking!!!

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800 milliseconds.

Sucks this kid got killed, but who's being dishonest?

If you show him with a gun it's dishonest, but it's not to say he was unarmed and not mention he was armed with a gun 800 milliseconds before he was shot?

There's truth in both of those statements and facts that are left out.. hypocrisy much?

Once again, another reason why I hate guns and **** bag parenting.
 
Archie Moses said:

800 milliseconds.

Sucks this kid got killed, but who's being dishonest?

If you show him with a gun it's dishonest, but it's not to say he was unarmed and not mention he was armed with a gun 800 milliseconds before he was shot?

There's truth in both of those statements and facts that are left out.. hypocrisy much?

Once again, another reason why I hate guns and **** bag parenting.
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At that point when he stopped running, Toledo threw down his weapon and raised his hands. What else could he have done in that moment to avoid being shot?
 
One Brow said:
At that point when he stopped running, Toledo threw down his weapon and raised his hands. What else could he have done in that moment to avoid being shot?
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Not have the gun in his hand 800 milliseconds before being shot?

I'm certainly not saying he should have been shot, but I will say, he certainly shouldn't have been out on the streets at 2 AM armed with a gun too.

Being a cop would suck in situations like these. Maybe one instance, the bad guy drops the gun, maybe 500 milliseconds later he shoots the cop.

I'm not surprised you or Thriller won't understand this or even somewhat acknowledge it. Nor am I surprised people and the media will skew the facts to cause public outrage. You guys hate guns, right? I do.
 
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