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Did we take any steps back defensively?

Ron Mexico said:
We are better on defense this year. Rubio sucked on defense. Conley is a big upgrade. Mitchell is getting better and better at defense each year. Bogs is a good defender. Ingles will be back to form. He slumped a little. Crowder was overrated and Green is just as good or better. Gobert is getting better. Davis is close to as good as Favors on defense.
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Conley, Ingles, and Bogs will all be worse on defense than previous years. It's called age.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Overall? No


But my mind has definitely wandered to that Bucks game in Jan/Feb when Gobert got absolutely destroyed by Giannis in historical fashion. Favors came in to save the day (the game Mitchell went nuts, probably game of the year). Bucks are the favorite to represent the East in the Finals. If that’s where we want the Jazz to be then we might miss Favors the most right when we’ve climbed so near the top of the mountain.

Poetic.
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He defended Giannis really well the other game we played them.
 
LogGrad98 said:
My bet is we will still be top 10 team D and now top 5 team O. Good combo for a deep playoff run.
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And I'll be surprised if we are a top 5 offensive team.

A huge dynamic change is that Mitchell's volume scoring on meh efficiency won't look at good now that the Jazz have Conley and Bojan. He'll have to make a big step in being more efficient for the Jazz to come close to top 5. I think top 10 is a near certainty though.

If I had to be, I'd say like the 9th ranked offense and 2nd best defense.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Conley, Ingles, and Bogs will all be worse on defense than previous years. It's called age.
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Possibly with Ingles being the exception.

Many players get better at defense with age. It's a lot about technique and effort. Those tend to improve with age and motivation.

Either way Conley>>>Rubio at defense. Bog>Crowder at defense and Ingles=Ingles at defense.
 
I think the odds are not with you if you're betting that the Jazz will improve or maintain their position on defense without some pretty substantial improvements at the individual level (and no, I don't consider the Conley-Rubio change or any of the other changes we've made as such improvements). Elite team defense requires, among other things, superior chemistry and pieces that match well together (often aided by continuity). The Jazz have been pretty great at this the last couple of years.

The likelihood that we've improved on or will re-create this defensively by swapping some similar individual defensive talents is well less than 50%, I'd say. It could happen, but I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment (and will be prone to trying to find a scapegoat) by thinking that we'll easily be just as good.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And I'll be surprised if we are a top 5 offensive team.

A huge dynamic change is that Mitchell's volume scoring on meh efficiency won't look at good now that the Jazz have Conley and Bojan. He'll have to make a big step in being more efficient for the Jazz to come close to top 5. I think top 10 is a near certainty though.

If I had to be, I'd say like the 9th ranked offense and 2nd best defense.
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Less pressure = higher efficiency
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Maybe, but often for volume shooters less volume less efficiency. It's a big step to take.
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I don't think we've seen enough of him to know if he's just a pure volume scorer or if he has just been doing the best he can with the entire focus of opposing defenses.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't think we've seen enough of him to know if he's just a pure volume scorer or if he has just been doing the best he can with the entire focus of opposing defenses.
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Have you not watched him the last two years? It's a big step to take. He's been a volume shooter/scorer his first two years.
 
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