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do NOT bring back George Hill

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Cool. You know what? He has missed half the season (actually he has played 6 games over half) and still has the 3rd most win shares on the team. He is the team's 3rd best player. I dont see any oppurtunity to add antoher player better than George Hill in the future unless we do some kind of blockbuster deal that let's us keep Hayward/Gobert while getting another All-Star.

Rodney Hood hasn't shown any improvement this year in his ability to stay on the court or be a consistent playmaker. Exum is still more of a prospect than a player. Favors has a more worrying injury rap-sheet and his style of play clearly isnt inline with what Snyder sees as his ideal PF. Those are the players who are up to get paid next. I'd rather keep George Hill over all of them. George Hill gives us the best chance to be a great team. Without George Hill you are praying on Hood and Favors to stop having chronic knee problems and for Exum to actually mature into a NBA PG and not just a perimeter defender who will periodically put on a faux PG hat.

You sign George Hill now and figure it out later. It gives us the best chance to compete next year. Hell next year might be our best chance for this core while we still have a capable Joe Johnson as well as Favors/Exum/Hood all motivated by contract years. If you don't re-sign Hill the Jazz would be lucky to build a better team with the next handful of years and the issue of paying the next contracts will always be present.
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So what kind of contract (salary/years) do you offer then? I don't know about you but I'm not interested in putting the entire future of this core into a 31 year old PG with health issues. Next year isn't my big concern. I'm interested in keeping the championship window we have with Gobert/Hayward open as long as possible. To do that we need to remain as close to the cap as we can for as long as we possibly can until that third guy next to Gobert/Hayward either develops or is acquired through draft/FA/trade. So what's the plan to keep Hill and stay close to the cap?
 
SCS said:
So what kind of contract (salary/years) do you offer then? I don't know about you but I'm not interested in putting the entire future of this core into a 31 year old PG with health issues. Next year isn't my big concern. I'm interested in keeping the championship window we have with Gobert/Hayward open as long as possible. To do that we need to remain as close to the cap as we can for as long as we possibly can until that third guy next to Gobert/Hayward either develops or is acquired through draft/FA/trade. So what's the plan to keep Hill and stay close to the cap?
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I think we need to start at 4/80. The problem is another team, the Nets I've heard recently as one example, may offer him too much. I could see them offering 4 years, 110M and I don't think we should go that high.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
The jazz didn't extend Hayward a few seasons ago. They tried to get him at a discount, and Hayward chose to bet on himself for the bigger payout. How is that any different from what happened this year with Hill. Jazz tried for a discount while Hill is going to let the market determine his value. This doesn't mean they are far apart. It's good business on both sides
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Actually I don't think the jazz tried to get hill for a discount. iirc they offered hill the maximum amount possible for an extension. The max on an extension is less than the max that can be offered in free agency so hill turned down the extension offer. At least I think that is how it when down from what I understand.

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fishonjazz said:
Actually I don't think the jazz tried to get hill for a discount. iirc they offered hill the maximum amount possible for an extension. The max on an extension is less than the max that can be offered in free agency so hill turned down the extension offer. At least I think that is how it when down from what I understand.

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Excactly what I was saying. The jazz tried to sign him a little cheaper since a player can get more money in free agency


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I wonder if we took the difference from what Hill is wanting and what we're willing to pay and divided it among half the officials in the league, how much that would improve our team next year. How much per official would that be?
 
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