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Does John Collins Get Traded?

Will Collins Get Traded Before the Deadline?


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The thing with getting PG is that I really only like it if we get Flagg, so it's betting on a 14% outcome. Otherwise you just have PG and a young potential star who might be 2-4 years away and PG could impede that growth.

My current stance is that if we don’t hit on Flagg, we should probably look to 2026 draft and even if we do we still might be better off trading Lauri/everyone else. So I find the proposition of taking on PG very risky.

Having said that, I think if you simply put PG on ice for the rest of this year there will still be a lot of belief that he is/can be a good player. You can sell the narrative that he just needed some time to get healthy and it’s honestly a valid narrative. I think that if we acquired him now and rested him the remainder of the year we would have some trade offers if we wanted to move him in the summer.
 
Fair enough….but he’s become a really good player and I pretty much feel bad for every player that has to sit in order to lose on purpose. He does seem very happy here though.
Ya if we keep all of Clarkson, Collins and Sexton and they are all on the roster next year then we better not tank next year.

We have to give these guys a chance at winning and see what they can do with a fully fleshed out as good as can be roster.

They have all been good soldiers for long enough. Can't make them tank again.
 
Per 36 (he only averages 29 minutes) Collins is at 22 points and 10 rebounds per game. On 54% from the field, 46% from 3, and 87% from the line.

He is our most efficient player (other than Kessler who kind of doesn't count) and is 5th on the team in attempts.

If we were trying to win and had a real point guard (maybe Collier could be that guy) and featured him a bit more he could be an all star next year.

Lauri has been an all star already. Sexton has had many long stretches of all star level offensive play. Kessler is evolving into a very high level starting center.

Let's get Flagg and let's ****ing go!

Now that I jinxed it, there will be a sexton and Collins trade soon and we will tank again next year. Sigh....
 
If we want long term success I would still hope we tank one more year. Do not think we become legit contenders without a one more solid lottery player add from 2026 draft. Clarkson won’t get minutes next year, would be a patty mills situation IMO. Would fee bad for Collins sexton but if everything intact for 2027 and beyond, look out
 
Maybe there's a chance he ends up back in ATL. They are 2-8 the last 10 games and Jalen Johnson is out for the season.

Sadly the Spurs own their FRP. Collins back to ATL makes a lot of sense and I'd donate Clarkson if it helps get their season back on track.
 
The Milwaukee deal I threw out in the trade rumors thread with Collins/Sexton to Milwaukee for Middleton/Portis/Pat and their 2031 first is the deal I could see. They may only be sending a second in the deal rumored with the Wiz where its Middleton for Kuzma (and likely another player). I'd think Kuzma < Collins value and Sexton is a nice piece for them to work with. That would be as big of a crown jewel as the Suns pick imo, so we might have to add some seconds to season.

I voted "no" though just because the contract size and finding a partner isn't easy.
 
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Here is a warcrime I just cooked up? Who says no?

Bucks get 3 useful parts that aren't dying and save infinity dollars. Pistons get sexton for Tech, Sasser and their second rounder they own from toronto. We get the first and the salary filler and can maybe recycle Middleton next year and maybe Bobby this year (or next). The 2031 Bucks first is a big asset so maybe they could do better. If Bucks wanted Sexton instead of the other stuff that's cool too.
 
I'm out of the loop on who can offer what. But it would surprise me if teams weren't at least interested in making a meaningful offer for him if they have the assets to do so. He's basically a 50/40/90 guy this year, only 27, with sufficient size / length. At minimum, an awesome 3rd big who can give you meaningful, productive minutes in the stretch run / playoffs.

I assume his perceived value largely hinges on 1) does he opt in/out, and 2) if he does opt out, can you re-sign him at a # that works for you.

My optimism that we will move our draft assets for a bona fide star this offseason or next continues to wane. As such, I lean towards trading the JCs / Sexton for whatever we can get and fully embracing the tank in 2025-2026. What that means for our relationship with Lauri, and what we do with him, I do not know.

But on Collins, I'd prefer to sell on him now to 1) increase our odds of landing a star player elsewhere (draft or via newly secured draft capital) over the next two offseasons and 2) ensure more cap flexibility moving forward (assuming we would never take back a ****** contract).

He'd be a nice piece for the long-term, there's no question. But I would hesitate to put significant commitment there when we have more important, foundational, roster-building priorities to address.
 
i don't know why we trade him, he fits into the veteran part of the timeline, he's younger than lauri, and as has been pointed out, he has been playing great lately At The Four.
 
The Milwaukee deal I threw out in the trade rumors thread with Collins/Sexton to Milwaukee for Middleton/Portis/Pat and their 2031 first is the deal I could see. They may only be sending a second in the deal rumored with the Wiz where its Middleton for Kuzma (and likely another player). I'd think Kuzma < Collins value and Sexton is a nice piece for them to work with. That would be as big of a crown jewel as the Suns pick imo, so we might have to add some seconds to season.

I voted "no" though just because the contract size and finding a partner isn't easy.

Don't see Collins or Sexton as a great asset for MIL. Collins isn't playing next to both Giannis and Brook, and Sexton next to Dame is just asking to get annihilated in the playoffs. I would be more inclined to believe in a multi-team trade where we send those guys to MIA, Jimmy to PHI, PG to MIL, and we take all the crap and some picks....something like that.

Middleton would be the best player for the Bucks out of him, Sexton, and Collins.
 
Bucks draft assets would be horny as hell whether you’re trying to draft with them or hold them hostage, either of which I would be stoked about. Not sure things are calibrated for us to get any, but I’ll take swaps if it comes down to it.
 
Don't see Collins or Sexton as a great asset for MIL. Collins isn't playing next to both Giannis and Brook, and Sexton next to Dame is just asking to get annihilated in the playoffs. I would be more inclined to believe in a multi-team trade where we send those guys to MIA, Jimmy to PHI, PG to MIL, and we take all the crap and some picks....something like that.

Middleton would be the best player for the Bucks out of him, Sexton, and Collins.
Based on how aggressively they are shopping Khris I think they may not believe he will be there when they need him.
 
Don't see Collins or Sexton as a great asset for MIL. Collins isn't playing next to both Giannis and Brook, and Sexton next to Dame is just asking to get annihilated in the playoffs. I would be more inclined to believe in a multi-team trade where we send those guys to MIA, Jimmy to PHI, PG to MIL, and we take all the crap and some picks....something like that.

Middleton would be the best player for the Bucks out of him, Sexton, and Collins.
Fine points, but if Collins shoots there like he is here right now then I see no issue and actually think it’s a great fit. They could really use some more athleticism/rim pressure beyond Giannis.

And @Handlogten's Heros , Bucks get more 2nds, at least.
 
Don't see Collins or Sexton as a great asset for MIL. Collins isn't playing next to both Giannis and Brook, and Sexton next to Dame is just asking to get annihilated in the playoffs. I would be more inclined to believe in a multi-team trade where we send those guys to MIA, Jimmy to PHI, PG to MIL, and we take all the crap and some picks....something like that.

Middleton would be the best player for the Bucks out of him, Sexton, and Collins.
Fine points, but if Collins shoots there like he is here right now then I see no issue and actually think it’s a great fit. They could really use some more athleticism/rim pressure beyond Giannis.

And @Handlogten's Heros , Bucks get more 2nds, at least.
Collins would essentially give them what Portis gave them in their championship run, but potentially more.
 
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I posted a 3 team version of this on the trade rumors thread, but you could do a 4 teamer where you put Capela with the Lakers. You would have some 2nd rounders go back to LAL in this deal. Maybe include Brice to LA and swap some more salaries around to make it work?

Only really makes sense for LAL if they are dead-set on making noise this year in the playoffs.
 
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